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Hi, myself and my husband own a LHD 1967 1300 junior and was thinking of converting it to a RHD. My husband owns his own restoration bodyshop so has equipment/materials making it a slightly easier prospect? I would love to know peoples thoughts and possibly anyone's advice if they have taken on this conversion? Kind regards Laura.
 

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Piece of cake. Bulkhead is pressed for both, but pedals and master cylinders very different, but easily attainable ...
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During a certain period no RHD spders were imported in the UK. Specialists like Bell and Colvill, Seaking, Ruddspeed, Lombardia carriage (still active), Hauser Germany? converted them. They might give some information. Just google "RHD conversion alfa romeo 115".
 

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Maybe but all you need to do is find a rusty GTV, or a wreckers yard, for the donor parts, then easy other than dashboard

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The Seaking conversions Bell & Colville did still kept a lot of the LHD gubbins as do I think some of the others, I think it's probably easier and cleaner nowadays to do a proper RHD conversion with original RHD parts particularly if body stripped and engine out. All it takes is money, time and experience/good manual. Plenty of modern parts like pedal boxes, brake & clutch setups etc available if originals NLA or you fancy going that way.

I always thought LHD in a RHD was a bit cool if you accept overtaking is a bit tougher.
 

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Laura, I would contact Classic Alfa, they carry a lot of second hand parts and likely able to supply most of what you will need to do the change over. Off the top of my head:
A right hand drive steering box probable the Idler assembly also, floor pedals for cable mechanical clutch and brakes and right hand control linkage for throttle. You may need to change the wiring loom or have yours altered? Door mirror. Lower A pillar interior panel, no map pocket on RH drivers side.
Steering column shroud, Right hand drive flat dash with wood grain finish, I would think that a fiberglass one would be Ok and then get if covered with a 3M contact vinyl product which is mentioned in a post somewhere on this site.
Although this sounds a big list in reality it is nothing like some cars such as a Porsche 911, wrong firewall layout and some other cars with unobtainable dash boards. Good luck with the conversion.
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Thank you all for your responses. Its encouraging to hear some of your thoughts. I guess it's now just down to whether I can source the parts? Also I don't suppose any of you have taken on the conversion yourselves? If so would you have any photos/measures/diagrams that you would be happy to share of the mechanisms of the pedal box, to the gear box and a measurement of the pedal box to the break master cylinder? I would appreciate any help on this as I am seriously struggling to source the parts for theses mechanisms!
 

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Tim (exhausted ) would have done a number of cars and maybe a conversion, as tim said the firewall was the same for rhd and lhd just the holes cut to suit. the steering box and idler arm bolt in the same spot. if its a cable clutch rather than hydraulic then you will need a piece that welds to the floor that the clutch mechanism pivots on. use google photos or search the bulletin board and build up a file of photos . then you will get a picture of what parts you need and what information you need.

i'm surprised that the parts aren't in the UK as many cars rusted beyond saving. Robert at manning will have most bits

cheers Ian
 

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I'm not surprised the parts are not in the UK or even Europe. (Unless they exist as part of a NOS parts collection, never used on a car). The cost of undercover car parks in the UK/Europe in city centres was probably out of reach of most, thus forcing you to park your car in the open all year around thus it would rust away at a faster rate than the mechanical parts would wear out in UK and Europe.

In UK and Europe the distances were less to the scrap yards which probably encourage local entrepreneurs called 'scrappers' in the UK to set up as metal collections businesses. Key components like engines, gearboxes and diffs would be exported by the container loads to the trades (engine reconditioning companies) around the world looking for 'good cores' (low km engines/gearboxes/diffs)
Europe had a thirst for scrap steel, in particular Italy which would recycle most of it's own cars as well as importing scrap steel from other countries in Europe to feed it's Electric Arc Furnaces (EAF).
One of my early posts links the effects of the 1972 oil embargo/crisis that limited the sale of oil/petrol in Europe and around the world and the demand for scrap steel which rose thus price of scrap steel went up around the world in particular Europe and the UK, thus UK could earn export income by selling it's scrap steel which it did not need.
In making RHD cars Alfa Romeo may have been surprised when Australian private entrepreneurs ordered RHD cars, most likely originally designated for the UK RHD market.

Of course in Australia the lack of parts to repair rusted or damaged cars rendered some good cars ' to become as donor cars' to be cut up to fix other cars plus the learning by doing 'DIY craze' of the 80's which fed off the lack of supply of panels.

My RHD 1972 GTJ 1300 first delivered in the UK was lucky to get out in 1974 and avoid the UK scrappers.

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If your car has a hydraulic clutch, even if RHD of the period should have cable, I wouldn't convert to cable, I'd install the 70's GTV standing pedals along with clutch master cylinder. Easier, and you car will always be a conversion ... no need to make an exact replica of a factory RHD '67 when genuine parts exist to make conversion to, and back easier (thinking next owner, which if finances permit means all LHD parts should be kept to be sold with the car)

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We all like to think that the next owner may want the original parts, but that may not be the case as we can't guess what that will be.
Of course my thinking is the next owner will have little or no chance in obtaining the original parts if they want to convert it back to LHD, but by that time the replica parts could be the norm as orginal parts may be hard to find 100 years after production in 2067!
 

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Get in touch with Rik Zuurbier in the Netherlands. He converted a RHD GT Junior to LHD about three years ago and was still trying to sell the parts as a package some months ago.
 
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