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So in my rebuild project I have gotten to the point where I need to think about the Burman Box. While the engines out and it is easy right...

Pulled it last night and found the oil that was in it was emulsified!! <grumble> Would have been nice if it was fine, replace the seals, add fresh oil, and go. Not so much. In the picture below you can see the oil that came out in the jar.



I did a search of the forum and I found the great thread on rebuilding one of these. Seems like great pictures and well written directions. Thanks GProcket!!

What I would prefer though is to send it to a specialist and have it done. Is there such a thing? I have only seen some old posts that say APE was doing an exchange program. I will be calling them today to check. Has anyone had any recent experience with APE or another vendor that they would like to share?

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Miguel
 

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If you can pull your engine then you have the skill to rebuild your Burman. Seals, ball bearings, and horn tube o-ring (if equipped) are available in the US. Now if the box is cracked, you can find someone to weld it or, preferably, source an uncracked unit. Some of the UK vendors were marketing refeshened units.
 

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If you can pull your engine then you have the skill to rebuild your Burman. Seals, ball bearings, and horn tube o-ring (if equipped) are available in the US. Now if the box is cracked, you can find someone to weld it or, preferably, source an uncracked unit. Some of the UK vendors were marketing refeshened units.
I agree with hans2 up to a point - replacing the seals and cleaning the crud out of a Burman box is not difficult. Just disassemble the box in a confined space, as ball bearings will roll everywhere when you take it apart.

However, if your Burman has a "crunchy" feel it may have the problem shown in the picture below (which I borrowed from a 2-12-2011 post by "r-mm").


This usually happens when water gets into the steering box oil, corroding the bearing surface. It is pretty hard to repair this type of damage. A cracked case is another common Burman problem, and again, one that's tough for a home mechanic to fix properly. In these situations, sending the box out for a rebuild might be the best strategy.

I would prefer though is to send it to a specialist and have it done. Is there such a thing?
Bertelsbeck offers something for 580 euro called "exchange steering box burman". See:
http://www.myalfa.eu/index.php?cat=c1911_STEERING-BOX.html
 

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PM me. Just so happens my Burman Box "expert" is just finishing up some projects and now is a good time to slip one in before he gets busy again. But, if you want to try it yourself I am happy to walk you through it too.

As jay pointed out, if the bearing surfaces are bad then you are out of luck unless you have a spare box. I've got a pretty decent supply of spares now so it's a little easier for us. I've also go the guys that can weld up cracks if they aren't too far gone.

I am convinced that if properly maintained these boxes will last for ever but they are so hard to get to and inglamorous (I'd much rather be building a motor) that they often get neglected. I had to blow a few up myself before I came to grips with having to pull them out and rebuild them.

You can buy new cast boxes and some folks (including myself) are looking into CNC'ing new billet boxes but it's just irritating to have to pay as much or more for the stupid steering box as the motor itself...

Larry at APE is a stand up guy and if he has a good box, I wouldn't think twice about getting one from him.
 

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.You can buy new cast boxes and some folks (including myself) are looking into CNC'ing new billet boxes .....
Alfaholics offers new boxes CNC'd from billet. Their website shows the Montreal version, but seems that I recall someone on the BB saying they had talked with Alfaholics, and being told that boxes for sprints & spiders were available as well. Price shown on the website is £695.00 for the box, bushing, and O ring.

Montreal LHD Steering Box Case | Classic Alfa Romeo spare parts and accessories
 
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