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As a kid I remember all the NASCAR guys had the FRAM decals on their front fenders. I have a few old NOS PH7 filters probably from the 80's and at that time, they were owned by Allied out of Providence, RI, I suspect the ensuing years and ownership changes may have diminished the quality of their product, their reputation or created an urban legend, IDK. I think a lot of Ferrari's in the day, used the FRAM HP16 filter in pairs, but also seem to recall Baldwin filters in place of the FRAM's.
 

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The Ferrari filters were Baldwin...I never installed a Fram in any Ferrari..
It's a relief to know there is a quality filter available for Ferraris. However, there are hundreds of photos on the 'net showing a Fram filter fitted to a Ferrari engine.
 

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In reference to post 14, regarding Fran filters, to set the record straight I don鈥檛 have any affiliation, or connection to Fran filters, use at your own risk! Fran O鈥機onnor. 馃槂
 

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It's a relief to know there is a quality filter available for Ferraris. However, there are hundreds of photos on the 'net showing a Fram filter fitted to a Ferrari engine.
An Infamnia!!!!! >:)
 

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Double edged sword, the old part numbers on the part would do it on 105/115 cars, but they are Alfa branded, depends on who鈥檚 paying attention!
 

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Since I've been using the Mobil 1 15W-50 lubricant, with the higher levels of the zinc additives comparable to the older oils, I also use the Mobil 1 oil filters. The consensus seems to be that they are an excellent filter, made by Champion, which also makes the Royal Purple, etc. I just wish they had the black grippy coating on the ends like the Fram, which can be useful if your hand is oily, I would gather.

Haven't used Fram for years, since our early Alfas, for which we never had a problem with excessive bearing wear with them, easily putting on 180k miles, still with decent oil pressure and no observable cam/tappet wear.

But, that was then.
 

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A strip of 220 grit sand paper held in the hand works as well as the grip strip on a fram-use the gritty side towards the filter.
 

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True, but when you are snaking your hand in past steering pumps and racks, hoses, exhaust manifolds, whatever, it can be difficult to hold onto the sandpaper at the same time you are trying to find the filter by feel in cars such as the 164, and even the Milano.

BTW, using the small 24V engine filter makes it easy to install or pull the Milano filter past things without having to remove anything. Down it goes, and up it comes. Simple compared to the 164, esp the later 24v version.

I may just glue a strip of such sandpaper onto the new filter before installing it. Will come in handy when properly installing the filter hand tight.
 

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If Fram is such garbage, how are they still in business?
That鈥檚 a good point, let鈥檚 all get together at MacDonald鈥檚, KFC or taco bell and discuss it over something nutritious
 

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If Fram is such garbage, how are they still in business?
"There's a sucker born every minute." Still true, always has been true, always will be true.

Marketing and reputation can sell ANYTHING.:laugh2:
 

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I am a fool too some times when it comes to brand loyalty. As I stated in an earlier post, I started using WIX do to the cost and after speaking to the O Riley clerk. He said at a meeting they did a comparison and WIX was the better product! After watching that video and seeing the construction of the filter housing and the length of the filter papers for all of the brands why would any on buy Fran. On top of all that it was stored so long and the metal to make the Fran filter housing must be super low grade.
As most of use on this form we are older gentleman we are seeing quality slipping away (it is good enough) for the all mighty greed!!!
Enough ranting --- more driving our high quality Alfa's


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Haven't used Fram for decades. But, show me a car whose engine was harmed by a Fram filter (one that had reasonable oil/filter changes).
The engine in my Spider was destroyed when the gasket of the Fram filter blew out while my daughter was driving it.
There it is! Have not used Fram for years, after reading posts on this board. NAPA Gold for me. Thanks for sharing Alfaparticle.
 

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If you look on YouTube you can see videos that take them apart and show you the inside of multiple filters. Fram is definitely Junk! Here is a link to the,
 

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Pretty compelling. I threw out two in the box Fram filters that had been on a shelf in my garage after seeing this.

Thanks.
 
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