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I have a hard time understanding how Andrea Zagato would allow this.. maybe Sultans have more ppwer but it ain't his anymore. Maybe he was keeping his powder dry for a fair fight.

This is hardly a sows ear to us peons but it might be called that over a card game at the Casino in Monte Carlo. The novelist who wrote the listing should be commended.
 

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$2.6M for a tribute?--not even an exact clone? Per the eBay listing there are 11 offers. Presumably some of them are offers of service to help transport the seller back to his home planet.
 

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Narrow minded much?
No-one in their right mind would think it's the real thing. It's been built out of discarded bits and bobs - what's the issue?
 

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Well, really? Why using an original 1960 DB4GT frame and papers? What is it? Isn't this an issue?
What is it? It's a DB4GT chassis with DB7 engine/gearbox, narrowed DBS rear suspension and a handmade Zagato replica body.
For the purpose of getting frankenstein's monster registered in the USA, the DOT use the chassis number - which is the DB4GT number.

I feel it would be more of an issue if the car had been built as a "tool room" recreation/replica with the correct rear suspension and correct motor.
The thing is so obviously not a real DB4GTZ i don't see the issue?
It's no different to the Eagle lightweight E-types - very obviously not the real thing.

A friend has a car that came from the USA registered as a 1964 "Porsche 356".
It's fibreglass, on a shorted 1964 beetle chassis (hence the chassis number/age), and has a 356 Super 90 engine in it. It's not fooling anyone as to what it is, but because of the registration system in most states of the USA, it uses papers related to the chassis. This is no different.
 

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If this is one of the sanctioned continuation cars built by AM, the price is in line and the car has provenance, just as a 2014 Shelby cobra coming out of the shelby factory would. Here's from a hemmings write-up,

" Bonhams is claiming a new world record for this past weekend’s sale of a one-of-four 1991 Aston Martin DB4GT Zagato Sanction II, which hammered for 1.2 million pounds, or about $1.9 million.

Here in the United States, a less charitable soul might call the Sanction II simply a continuation car. When Aston Martin first offered the DB4 GT Zagato in the early 1960s, lack of demand led to a production run of 20 rather than the planned 25. Three decades later, demand soared for the original cars, so Aston’s joint chairmen at the time, Victor Gauntlett and Peter Livanos, took a look through the books, noted the leftover chassis numbers from the initial run of Zagatos, and commissioned Aston Martin specialist Richard Williams to use the chassis numbers on four DB4 chassis uprated to GT specifications, then ship the four chassis to Zagato to have the carrozzeria replicate its effort from the first 20 cars. At the same time, Williams modernized selected bits under the skin, slipping in a 352hp 4.2-liter six-cylinder rather than the original 314hp 3.7-liter six and adjustable front and rear suspensions with a larger front anti-roll bar.

Known as the Aston Martin DB4GT Zagato Sanction II, Aston Martin sold all four for at least $1 million. This particular Sanction II, chassis number 0198R, was originally bought by Tony Smith, Phil Collins’s manager and a historic racer and car collector, and today has just 4,748 miles on the odometer. Freshly re-commissioned by Aston Martin Works (at a cost of £12,000, or about $19,000), the Sanction II had a pre-auction estimate of £1.2 million to £1.5 million ($1.9 million to $2.4 million)."


- See more at: continuation cars | Hemmings Daily


Nobody is buying this thinking it's an original, if it was, it would be selling north of $10 mil. It's still one of the most beautiful shapes ever created for the road. I was at the shapecraft facility when I acquired my eleven, and they had one, not sure if it was a db4 being re-wrapped in Zagato sheetmetal or a restoration of a real one. I wouldn't turn my nose up at an offer to drive one!

odd that the steering wheel is on the wrong side tho.
 

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I can't comment on this particular car, apart from saying that the level of expense and craftsmanship is pretty impressive.

However, a few years back at the Longford Revival meeting, here in Tassie, there was a black one on display and it too was superb. From memory it was one of a small series of them made built here in Aus, (possibly in Melbourne ??), with approval by Aston Martin, and based off the specifications for the DB4 Zagato but based on DB7 (6 cylinder twin cam, rather than a supercharged V8) and therefore at least more in keeping with the original DB4 6 cylinder engine.

The other thing is that I seem to recall that anyone could get one built if they had a spare $500K and a doner DB6 or 7 for the build. Somewhat cheaper than this rather expensive example.
 

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It's definitely not a Sanction 2 car. Lotus Eleven, that particular car was bodied at Shapecraft - and while i understand they have bodied a few of them, it may even have been that particular car! Steering wheel is on the left because it was built on the remains of a US delivered LHD DB4GT, and I assume for/by an american client.

Super 1600 - never heard of any DB7 based cars being built here, let alone anything looking like a DB4GTZ. You sure you're not one number too far up the range? A DB4GTZ replica could be conceivably built on a DB4, DB5 or DB6 platform with appropriate shortening.
 

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Yep, dead certain, I poured over the car and it looks absolutely identical in body and trim to the one this thread is about.

The owner had a build specification board which gave the details, and I had a short talk with him about the car. I have 2 pics on my iphone of the car. It was registered in Vic with a DB4Z number plate. DB7 6 cylinder cars are the cheapest to purchase and hence suitable for a doner car.

I can't recall if the chassis was used but the mechanicals etc most certainly were, and it was definitely made here in Oz.
 

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It's definitely not a Sanction 2 car. Lotus Eleven, that particular car was bodied at Shapecraft - and while i understand they have bodied a few of them, it may even have been that particular car! Steering wheel is on the left because it was built on the remains of a US delivered LHD DB4GT, and I assume for/by an american client.

Super 1600 - never heard of any DB7 based cars being built here, let alone anything looking like a DB4GTZ. You sure you're not one number too far up the range? A DB4GTZ replica could be conceivably built on a DB4, DB5 or DB6 platform with appropriate shortening.
The above discussion and comments make obvious, that it is open "what it is". Number? Chassis DB4GT/0101/R converted for the US in DB4GT0101L? If yes, the very first DB4GT production frame was used and integrated in this creation. Isn't this an issue?
 

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Thanks for posting the link, that is what I was thinking of, and yes DBS being the key to building one of these cars.
 

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Interesting. The extra 2" of width ruins the look unfortunately (they look "fat" outboard of the headlights - I guess that's where they added the 1" each side)
I'm curious how they get them registered - A DB7 engine would let you get through the registration process as a ICV (Individually Constructed Vehicle - Have to meet at least Euro 3 emissions), But if they're getting them registered with the v8, they must be pulling the "rebodied vehicle" trick - not sure how they then get away with shortening the DBS/DBV8 platform. Still, nice to see someone is building interesting cars in Oz.
 

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The above discussion and comments make obvious, that it is open "what it is". Number? Chassis DB4GT/0101/R converted for the US in DB4GT0101L? If yes, the very first DB4GT production frame was used and integrated in this creation. Isn't this an issue?
If they started with a db4gt, they started with a car that is bringing over 2 million at auction. 1960 Aston Martin DB4GT | Monterey 2013 | RM AUCTIONS Seems a better move would have been to restore the GT! If it's based on a DB4, you can probably get shapecraft to make you one for a lot less than 2 million. Interesting the range of cars they have made or restored, I suspect they do both. Shapecraft Classic Motor Bodies they will even do you a Jaguar XK13!
 

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If they started with a db4gt, they started with a car that is bringing over 2 million at auction. 1960 Aston Martin DB4GT | Monterey 2013 | RM AUCTIONS Seems a better move would have been to restore the GT! If it's based on a DB4, you can probably get shapecraft to make you one for a lot less than 2 million. Interesting the range of cars they have made or restored, I suspect they do both. Shapecraft Classic Motor Bodies they will even do you a Jaguar XK13!
I agree!

Did Shapecraft really use the papers of DB4GT/0101/R (adjusted for the US in DB4GT0101L) and its original frame with a DB7 engine? The very first DB4GT production frame used for this creation? What is it? I am still completely confused ...
 

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I talked to the guy. The original eBay ad showed a pic of a truly wretched DB4 chassis, if I'm not mistaken. Also, mention of a mysterious overseas owner with a GT claiming the same chassis numbers and whose "photos and proof (of existence") he'd never seen, but that he'd decided not to use the chassis number to avoid international litigation. There is something not right about the whole package, IMO.

OTOH, the original ad featured a raven-haired bombshell as the opening photo...isn't that worth something? He said that the car wouldn't sell for anything less than six figures, so why not?

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