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Mark Farnham said:
Alfa75:

What is your opinion of the Fulvia's on E-bay? I don't know
much about them, other than an article in Hemmings etc..

Mark
They look to be in good shape. I don't know all that much about them myself.
 

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alfa75 88 said:
They look to be in good shape. I don't know all that much about them myself.
I don't know anything about the specific Fulvias on Ebay, but I've got a 67 Fulvia Coupe Rallye 1.3 that I've used as my daily driver for the last year or so (about 14k miles) , and I think they're great.

They were pretty high spec for a mid 60s design: DOHC, twin side draft carbs, very narrow angle (13 degree) V4 motor, 4 wheel disc brakes, front wheel drive, etc. My 1.3 liter was rated at a respectable (for the displacement) 89 bhp output. So, enough power to keep up with modern traffic.

Their competition record, mostly in rallying. is also respectable. E.g., Lancia won the 1972 world rally championship with Fulvias.

As a non-mainstream sporting daily driver, it's superb. On the right tires (not too wide), it handles like a dream; I've never had a better, more nimble, tight canyon car. It's less than 1.5 liters, so you have to stir the gearbox regularly to make time, but I like that.

I can fit comfortably in the car (I'm 6'3"), the seats have proved to be supportable and comfortable for 800 mile events. The trunk is cavernous for the size of the car (a friend says he got 6 cases of wine in the back of his). Don't expect anyone but legless midgets and dogs to be happy for long in the back seat. Gas mileage is quite decent for its vintage (spirited driving = mid to high 20s).

Parts and expert advice on the car are still available, though not as widely and readily distributed as for, say, Alfas. Faults and potential problems are pretty much those you'd expect from any 40 year old + car: corrosion, old wiring, previous owner's field expedients.

Regards -
 

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Freddie said:
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Very nice Thema Emblema. Did they make this in Right Hand Drive ?.
Τhanks Freddie
Unfortunately Lancia withdrew from RHD markets in the early 90s.But i think that Fiat is planning Lancia's come back.
 

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I have this pic from somewhere off the Internet. I don't have a side profile shot, but I remember it looked a little too flat-nosed without the bumber for my taste.
 

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Great looking Beta,always wanted one,the cool early seats sunroof and colour are great.Have you thought of changeing the bumpers to the smaller euro style they are a lot cleaner.Try googling Rideau lakes rally lancia beta,if i remember correctly, should be some neat pictures of race/rally Beta coupe.Now that you have driven it for a while,how does it compare to a gtv,give us a seat of the pants roadtest report.
 

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nero said:
Great looking Beta,always wanted one,the cool early seats sunroof and colour are great.Have you thought of changeing the bumpers to the smaller euro style they are a lot cleaner.Try googling Rideau lakes rally lancia beta,if i remember correctly, should be some neat pictures of race/rally Beta coupe.Now that you have driven it for a while,how does it compare to a gtv,give us a seat of the pants roadtest report.
I think this question was aimed at both TX907 and I, so here's my answer:

This is always embarassing to say but I've never driven a GTV so I can't compare it to one. However, I imagine it's pretty close, minus the FWD vs. RWD thing.

I really like the way it drives. I gave it the good ol' Italian tune up up Emigration last Saturday, it did great. Fast it ain't but it's not a car you need to go fast in to enjoy. The wheel is small but it's just right (makes the one in my Corolla feel like it's out of a Kenworth). The shifter is kind of sticky at times, maybe it just needs to be adjusted. The gauges are hard to read because the steering wheel blocks out everything on the speedometer from 20 to 80. I'm 5'11" and 150 lbs and the interior is fine for me but for anybody bigger then me, I think it'd start getting to be tight. The backseats are useless but that's a given. The brakes feel good, as does the clutch. I don't know what kind of exhaust it's running but it sounds great!

My biggest complaint is that it's really rough in the cold. It's been getting quite cold here in the mornings and it's always a hassle for the first few miles until it warms up. I can tell you I won't be driving it much this winter.

That's about all I have time for this morning, feel free to ask questions though.

I found some rally pictures, thanks for the heads up.
 

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My mistake,thought tx907 and alfa75 88 were the same car.Thanks for the roadtest report,sounds like a fun ride.Both of your cars look very clean,i really like the look of the coupes.
 

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I own a '71 Fulvia 1600 HF that I brought back from Italy about 5 years ago. Being a second series car, it has the 5 speed "dogleg" tranny, which is not nearly as nice as the 4 speed box found in the first series Fulvias. That said, it's a beauty, and a real hoot to drive.

I also owned a '82 Beta Zagato. Funny about that car -- it was beautiful, and I had dreamed about owning one for years. But it gave me more electrical problems that any car I've owned before or since (and I've owned a lot of Italian cars). My brother used to refer to it as "Satan's Beta." Uniquely among the cars I've owned, I was actually happy to see it leave my driveway.
 

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Lancia Beta Saloon

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Photo courtesy of Tom Schmock.

It took me two years of staring at it in my garage until I could appreciate how really (oddly) beautiful this car is. It is probably the best one left in the U.S. though there are at least two more Series One (different rear sail panel) cars around. Anyway, this one was a fetish item from the previous and original owner= full Ansa, hot cams, Alquatti manifold, Dual Webers. Shown here competing in the New Glarus Hillclimb this past year. Not something you see everyday, but unnervingly smooth and powerful for a 1.8 (cruising competently at 85 for the two hour drive to the event and back).

Also have a Series One Fulvia, proof that superior engineering and craftsmanship is not the bastion of German car makers alone.
 

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Great cars, all!

You can enjoy pictures of the restoration of a '76 Scorpion SCCA & IMSA race car at projectlancia.com

The goal is to have the car ready for ItalianCarFest in Sept. of 2007 (near Dallas)

-Jerry Lee Phillips
 

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Had a Delta Integrale but traded it for a race GTV 2000. Great car and very, very quick. Great during the Swedish winter too.
 

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I have a '73 Fulvia 1.3S. It's about to get sold...

Vanimal's Lancia Fulvia

Exactly WHAT tires *should* be on this car? (And what size?) Some interesting torque steering happening right now with the ancient "goodyears" that are on there now. The tires that are on there now have always looked half deflated to me.
 

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Vanimal said:
I have a '73 Fulvia 1.3S. It's about to get sold...

Vanimal's Lancia Fulvia

Exactly WHAT tires *should* be on this car? (And what size?) Some interesting torque steering happening right now with the ancient "goodyears" that are on there now. The tires that are on there now have always looked half deflated to me.
If your Fulvia has 14" rims, it came new with either Michelin ZX or Pirelli Cinturatos in the 145-14 size. 165-14s are probably the closest you will be able to find today, and you'll probably have to search a bit to find those.

A previous owner put Kumho 195/60-14s on my car. They're too wide for the rims, but have worked okay. I'll be looking for something closer to the stock size when the time comes to replace them, though.

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A friend bought some narrow 14" tires for his Appia, but they had to come from England.
 
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