As I posted before, someone will pay for dismounting and disposal of the tires plus the additional shipping charges for worthless tires.I can do it for you if you wish. If you want me to dismount the tires and dispose of them I have to charge for that. Also, I will have to do a more comprehensive job of packing so the rims aren't damaged. Shipping would be a little cheaper, but I don't think it is worthwhile. If I were buying them, I would have them shipped with the tires on them, and then take them to have new tires mounted. No dismounting fee and no disposal fee, but up to you. Problem is I can't really say in advance how much the dismounting and extra packing on my end would cost. Two trips to the tire place to drop off and pick up, dismounting, disposal fee, extra packing material. I have NO RESERVE on these wheels. I am not going to do a bunch of free work as well.