Alfa badge/lettering suggestions?

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Donny

Discussion Starter · Aug 13, 2007

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Does anyone know where I can find the "spider veloce" lettering for the side of a 78 Spider? Also, any suggestions for a replacement front badge? I replaced my worn, heavy bumpers with fiberglass repro's and there is not an indent on the repro like the old one so the badge does not sit flush.

Thanks!!

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Tifosi

· #2 · Aug 13, 2007

The lettering you have can be carefully removed, straightened, cleaned, then stuck back on with 3M automotive two sided moulding mount tape onces it's carefully trimmed to match the edges of what you've got going on. (it's basically really heavy duty two sides tape)

Dunno on the badge, unless you want to carefully recess your fibreglass.

Andrew

· #3 · Aug 13, 2007

You might try APE (209) 833-8330, International Auto, or Centerline for the script and the Alfa badge.
Andrew

lazyFAT MAN

· #4 · Aug 14, 2007

Where did you get that bumper and how much?

Donny

Discussion Starter · #5 · Aug 14, 2007

Call Brad at AR Ricambi http://www.arricambi.com/ He does very nice work. I think they were about $300 each, it was a while ago.

alfaparticle

· #6 · Aug 14, 2007

I can supply you with good spider veloce scripts. My car is at the body shop for paint & repairs. I am doing it Euro style which includes no scripts.

Ed Prytherch
79 Spider Veloce
88 Milano Verde

Bill

· #7 · Aug 14, 2007

You should be able to cut a hole in the bumper using a hole saw of the proper diameter, but I'm not sure how thick the glass is at that , so take it slow and easy...I know my rear fiberglass bumper is less than 1/4" in the center.

mojave

· #8 · Aug 14, 2007

alfaparticle said:
I can supply you with good spider veloce scripts. My car is at the body shop for paint & repairs. I am doing it Euro style which includes no scripts.

Ed Prytherch
79 Spider Veloce
88 Milano Verde

I just purchased an 86 Spider Veloce. Both scripts are missing the "Veloce." The car came with Dellorto carbs, which I guess already makes it partly Euro style. When you say you are refinishing the body "Euro style," what exactly does that mean? I would like to repaint the car since its current paint is badly faded and wouldn't mind leaving off some of the badging.

DoubleDawg

· #9 · Aug 15, 2007

Not to hijack this post, but how did the fiberglass bumpers work out? Ricambi lists the front at $216 and the rear at $211. I'm hoping that is still a valid price!

I have an 82 with bumpers in really rough shape. The swap to stainless will run more like $2,000 all said and done. I've got to think that the fiberglass are equally light (or more) and close enough to the original look. I really want to unload the weight and at the same time return to the original look within reason.

Donny

Discussion Starter · #10 · Aug 15, 2007

Bob,

I think I paid a little more than $211 and $216, but not much more. Check out this thread http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/showthread.php?t=39094&highlight=fiberglass+bumpers

Bill has a nice red spider, from the looks I think his turned out better than mine. I would say that I am about 85% happy.

-10% I don't have the recess in the front bumper for the Alfa badge
-5% (could be more) When I put the rear bumper on it was about 1.5 inches off center to the left. The issue was the mounts on the car are not centered, but the mounts that were fiberglassed into the bumpers were centered. I say -5% for this because AR Ricambi has been very helpful so far. I took pics and mearsurements and shipped$$ the bumper back to them so they can fix it. We shall see.

All in all they are much better than the originals that were on it. Oh yeah, I weighed them and I think I am saving about 90 lbs!! Just don't hit anything!

-Donny

DoubleDawg

· #11 · Aug 15, 2007

I can understand docking for those items. I like the idea of weight improvement and corrosion/weathering improvement. The badge I agree is a hassle, but I think that could be worked around as Bill mentions above, if you were willing to do a little glass work. I've done a fair amount on boats and surfboards and think that wouldn't be too big an impediment.

The mounts is a bit tougher. I'd be interested to see how they glassed in the supports. I might even be willing to try that one myself too.

All things considered, I think that at least until I can fork out $2K, the glass bumpers sound very attractive. And lets hope we never have to put them to the test and see what they can stop, or rather what they can't!

Tifosi

· #12 · Aug 15, 2007

DoubleDawg said:
I'd be interested to see how they glassed in the supports. I might even be willing to try that one myself too.

Not that I've got any pix, but we used to do simular to kart bodywork for mounting on oddball bits like nerf bars and such.

Pretty simple actually:

Start with one of the mesh sheet type pieces of glass (loose hair type is right out) and cut slots to kind of fit what you're trying to anchor. (eg: to go around a square bracket, you' cut an X the size of the bracket base and let the flaps run up the sides of the bracket)

Then start laminating with strips with the lay of the fiber in 45 degree cross pattern for strength both around and through the bracket, (3-4 layers deep at least with an almost full cure in between), then one more sheet type piece cut in the same fashion as the first, but put on at 45 degrees to the base sheet and trimmed for a nice finish.

Basically you want to get it stuck down good with as big a peice as you can, laminate over that big peice with smaller multi-directional strips, then cover it with another big sheet.

As long as there's adiquate flange on the bracket and you do careful spreading of the resin, it should hold very well.

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DoubleDawg

· #13 · Aug 16, 2007

Sounds like if they glassed in the support at the wrong spot, you'd have to cut it out and maybe glass over that location. Then move to where it needs to be and follow the same type of support installation there. That doesn't sound like a big deal really.

Does anyone know if the resin used is epoxy or polyester?

Donny

Discussion Starter · #14 · Sep 25, 2007

Bumper update

I thought I would post an update about my bumpers. After the bumper mounted off center I shipped it back to AR Ricambi. It looks like Brad cut out the bumper mounting studs and moved them a little to the right. He shipped it back, I put 2 more coats of paint (Textured Paint for Plastic) to cover shipping scuffs, and it mounted perfectly. Looks very nice.

-Donny

DoubleDawg

· #15 · Sep 25, 2007

Pictures? I'm thinking more and more of this option when I get down to doing mine.

Donny

Discussion Starter · #16 · Sep 25, 2007

Bob,

I will post some when I get home tomorrow.

-Donny

Donny

Discussion Starter · #17 · Sep 26, 2007

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Pictures

Here are some shots of the fiberglass bumpers.

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DoubleDawg

· #18 · Sep 27, 2007

My 82 bumpers don't look nearly that nice! I think I will also go this route. My paint however, is even worse than the bumpers! Got a lot of work to do, but I like how this has turned out for you. Now if you can figure out the front emblem...

Spider 79

· #19 · Sep 28, 2007

I also have a set of the "spider veloce" emblems that I would be willing to part with. Send me a PM. And the fiberglass bumpers look great!

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