[dretceterini]

I didn't realize that there were three cars; not one! Click on "history and press book" and you can see that there are 2 dark cars with different front ends, plus a light car.


http://www.uniquecars.org/alfa_romeo/1900_coupe_pininfarina/

 

[2000 touring sp]

Thanks for the link. That's interesting. 3 at least.
But look at these 2 pictures of the roof line

 

[dretceterini]

I think it might just be the angle of the photo, but yes, the roof line on the lower car looks taller than the one on the upper car.

 

[D&SW]

I think it's hard to compare the 2...the whole perspective is different between the 2 photos...the car in the second pic appears longer, and sits lower in the rear (look at the gap in the rear wheel well)

not sure we can conclude anything at this point

 

[Oelholm]

I think they look identical, the difference is due to perspective and different backgrounds... As well as different lighting conditions.

 

[Collivanfan]

1900 Pf Ti

Hi all,

I recently saw one of these, I was very tired at the time after a long drive & it was amongst some other gems but I am pretty sure that it was the white example.

Despite being on a relatively long wheelbase for a coupe, the proportions were spot on, whereas, IMHO, PF didn't quite get it right with some of his better known convertibles of the 50s, including one from Portello (yes, I own one too but I can still be critical!). I want it!

Tony Stevens
England

 

[2000 touring sp]

The white one was presented during Villa d'Este 2007
http://www.swisscarsightings.com/concorsovillaeste2007.html

 

[Collivanfan]

Thanks for the link. I wonder if the Vignale 2000 102 series comes from the same collection, both have AT registations?

 

[2000 touring sp]

I cant say.
But the owner of the 1900 Ti, should have a fairly good collection of "one off", so you can be right

 

[dretceterini]

Thanks for the link. I wonder if the Vignale 2000 102 series comes from the same collection, both have AT registations?

Delmas Greene has one of the 47 Vignale 102s built.

 

[dretceterini]

Hi all,

I recently saw one of these, I was very tired at the time after a long drive & it was amongst some other gems but I am pretty sure that it was the white example.

Despite being on a relatively long wheelbase for a coupe, the proportions were spot on, whereas, IMHO, PF didn't quite get it right with some of his better known convertibles of the 50s, including one from Portello (yes, I own one too but I can still be critical!). I want it!

Tony Stevens
England

Quite some time ago, there was a Ghia bodied coupe built on a 1900 TI berlina chassis at Diro Alfa in the south bay area of Los Angeles.

 

[tubut]

The white one was presented during Villa d'Este 2007
http://www.swisscarsightings.com/concorsovillaeste2007.html

The white 1900 TI PF, the 102 Vignale and the blue 6C 2500 convertible all belong to Corrado Lopresto in Italy. He does indeed have quite a collection of interesting one-offs, including the gold-and-white Giulietta protoype that was at Pebble Beach a couple of years ago.

 

[Collivanfan]

Thanks Ruedi,

2+2+2 now make 6, it all falls into place, Corrado Lopresto lives in or near Milan I think?

Tony

 

[arvorio 105]

Pardon me for interrupting, but after reading thru the above and studying all the photos in the various links is it still possible that there was only ever one car produced? Without dates attatched to the many period shots to form some sort of chronological order, could it be that originally the dark blue car carried variations in grill, hubcap and side mould designs as the basic body shape is the same? Kind of like the Mr Potato Head of the coachbuilding world.......

It then changes color (white?), turns up 50 years later at the resto shop (with extended rear quarters, giulietta tail lamps and an extra serve of patina) and the resto guys return the rear of the car to the original style. I'm assuming thats why there are so many shots of the tail treatment during the resto process??
Any suggestions........?

 

[geraldo]

There was an article about the 1900 TI Pininfarina in the Italian magazine Autocapital No. 5 May 2007.. The article Sportica, ma che classe ... is written by Elvio Deganello and it features pictures of the white car owned by Lopresto. The author say that 4 or 5 prototypes were produced by Pininfarina which can be distinguished by the design of the front. The first one war presented at the Turin show 1954 (two chromed bars on grille), the second one a few month later at the Concorso d'Eleganza del Pincio in Rome (without the bars. The third one is the Lopresto car. The fourth one presented a bit later at the Paris show (i guess 1955 by now - the article does not say) with a chromed, hoirzontal profile in the middle of the front grille.

 

[dretceterini]

There was an article about the 1900 TI Pininfarina in the Italian magazine Autocapital No. 5 May 2007.. The article Sportica, ma che classe ... is written by Elvio Deganello and it features pictures of the white car owned by Lopresto. The author say that 4 or 5 prototypes were produced by Pininfarina which can be distinguished by the design of the front. The first one war presented at the Turin show 1954 (two chromed bars on grille), the second one a few month later at the Concorso d'Eleganza del Pincio in Rome (without the bars. The third one is the Lopresto car. The fourth one presented a bit later at the Paris show (i guess 1955 by now - the article does not say) with a chromed, hoirzontal profile in the middle of the front grille.

Does that article show photos of the cars? If so, could you please post them? I am now fairly certain that there were at least 3 cars, but no idea how many more really existed...

 

[geraldo]

Almost all pictures are from the restored Lopresto car. Besides that there is one from the Touring proposal and one from Ghia. The only other picture from Pininfarina is the own you see below. There is however no caption saying which of the cars it shows.
I will try to scan the whole article and post it as PDF.... for the ones that know a bit Italian.

 

[carlo]

This is from "Pininfarina 1" a Japanese book about Pininfarina cars.



And here are some other 1900 TI photos...







The PF Catalogue Raisonne says that "a few" 1900 TI PF were made.
Obviously most of the significant differences between the few were the variations in the grille...

Best regards
Ciao Carlo

 

[geraldo]

Scanned article of Auto Italia ... see attachments. I had to split it up into several parts because the file size was to large otherwise.
Have fun reading...

 

[dretceterini]

Thanks!

Personally, I like this nose better..

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9501/1954alfaromeoticouppm2.th.jpg