bing bing bing. Couldnt agree with that more, Id be very surprised if the 159/Brera GTA were a twin turbo v6, within the alfa heritage I can only think of one car with a twin turbo v6 configuration. And that wasnt a factory car, nor an Autodelta car. (Callaway)AR4me said:Just like they cover up the exterior on test cars they may throw the car guy a curve ball or two with some dummy pipes under the hood
Well...power isn't everything. Giulia GTA will be faster than many more powerful cars produced in 21st centuryRussianM3_dude said:Slush-box sports car? Mua-ha-ha-ha! Oh man, this just keeps getting better and better. BTW Mr.Sakiss, what happened to all your definitive pronouncements about the GTAs being 4.2V8? More hot air? Also 380hp is not exactly going to worry RS4 and next M3 with proper gearboxes and screaming V8s.
sakiss said:What i wrote was the first plan of 2005.Gta will have the new V8 instead of the old one with 450hp and it will cost propably more than RS4/M3 cause the use of carbon fiber/aluminium parts....and then we will see what an AR with an engine from maranello could achieve.....Germans will be again histoy in every SEGMENT...Gta's launch will remove the smile from your face...you know GTA,wont be a grand tourismo like Brera 3.2 is.
V6 busso 3.2 182kgr
V6 JTS 162kgr
V6 JTS TwinTurbo 262kgr
V6 JTS TwinTurbo light 217kgr
I said that the engine in the last photos we saw about Gta's in balocco testing were fitted with the twin turbo v6....but actually it was an old mule of Gta with v6 single turbo.Gta will get the new v8.RussianM3_dude said:You just said on another forum that the GTAs will be TTV6. Get you story straight. Also a 100,000Euro GTA if it were to be produced, would hardly be M3-RS4 competition. It would only steal sales from Maserati.
I think the 159 GTA if/when it comes, will be have around 320 horsepower. It will also be rather heavy for what it is, and will cost around 40,000-50,000 Euros. I agree that the M3 would be a better purchase, as would the RS4.RussianM3_dude said:You just said on another forum that the GTAs will be TTV6. Get you story straight. Also a 100,000Euro GTA if it were to be produced, would hardly be M3-RS4 competition. It would only steal sales from Maserati.
Even if there were a 159GTA twin turbo V6, I doubt if it would cost anywhere near what the 8C will cost. I have heard the price for the 8C will be about 170,000 Euros! A twin turbo 159GTA V6 or even V8 would be about 1/3 to 1/2 of the 8C price, but would have to be priced at less than $50,000 in the US to sell very well.RussianM3_dude said:Well, the good news, is that a circa 300hp GTA will be basically a little more expensive then a 3.2 159. Just like the 156GTA was basically a beefed up regular 156 and a 330 competition, the 159 GTA will be a beefed up 3.2 and 335 competition. Although some rumors give it 290hp from the regular 3.2. Basically the 159GTA will be exactly the same car (philosophy-wise) as the 156GTA but maybe with some minor weigth reduction.
Personally, I think this is good as it would be a lot more affordable. Maybe a 5-6000 Euro premium.
I just find it too good to be true, that Alfa, who is struggling to find funding for essential programs like future weight reduction, improving fuel consumption, improving dealer network, improving quality AND getting ready to reintroduce itself in the US, will spare money for a niche V8 GTA that would also clash with existing halo model, the V8 8C.
I could not agree more. I waited for the Speed3 to hit the dealer showrooms, but they were trying to get $4,000 of mark-up. At $27,000 dollars, I did the only logical thing possible, I bought the Audi A3! 2.0, 6 speed manual, red. It was the closest thing to a 147 that I could buy in the US.To me, one of the more interesting cars as far as value for money, is the new MazdaSpeed 3, with 263 hp tiurbo 4, a weight of about 3000 pounds, and a US window sticker price of around $23,000 US.