8C block and crankcase at Norman Racing

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Andrew

Discussion Starter · Oct 25, 2007

I was at Norman Racing yesterday, who usually have amazing stuff sitting around. They had the crankcase from a 1931 8C 2300, according to Dennis Etcheverry the fourth one built, and the last competition car driven by Enzo Ferrari. It is of course a long straight-8 piece, but because it is made of magnesium it is unbelievably light, and you can lift one end with a couple fingers. It's an amazing casting that shows its age. It has a big stitched-in aluminum repair where a rod apparently went through the side long ago.

Sorry I didn't get pics or an engine number. They also have the two block pieces from Patrick Otis's 8C 2300.

Andrew

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madchloe

· #2 · Nov 13, 2007

Hi Andrew,

I'm really interested to know where Norman Racing is or how I could contact these guys.

I am in the middle of producing many components for 8Cs... both for my own car and for other clients,

I still need lots...maybe they are making things I could use and visa versa

I should probably post a few images of my handy work

Cheers C

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AR58SprintV

· #3 · Nov 15, 2007

Dear Madchloe,

There are already tons of (expensive) new 8c and 6c parts, major and minor, being produced! Beware new Blocks, crankcases, axles, frames, and infact whole NEW cars!
This is a big-money industry already, with global producers.

Cheers, Laurence

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madchloe

· #4 · Nov 15, 2007

Hi Laurence,

Yes I know of cars being produced, I saw the new Monza in this forum which I think is from Argentina, I am also aware of cars coming out of the UK in the past.
Finding components has been difficult and I have opted to produce pretty much all that I have.
Much of what I am doing is producing what were originally steel forgings, now cast by the lost wax process...with great attention the original aesthetic detail...if I say so myself they look pretty good.

if you know of anybody producing 8C bits I would be interested to find them to chat or maybe trade

Cheers, C

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madchloe

· #5 · Mar 6, 2008

So Where should I go to find 8c parts??

I dont want to make the whole car!!

Does anybody know of anything?

C

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AR58SprintV

· #6 · Mar 7, 2008

Dear Madch,
Start with Crosswaithe & Gardener Engineering UK.
Bring lots of money.
Cheers, L.

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tubut

· #7 · Mar 7, 2008 (Edited)

FYI: The correct name is Crosthwaite and Gardiner and their web site is here.
According to this post, G&S valves in the UK has also made some 8C parts.

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jonas

· #8 · Mar 8, 2008

madchloe said:
So Where should I go to find 8c parts??

I dont want to make the whole car!!

Does anybody know of anything?

C

Do you know about Della Dynamics?

Out of curiousity, may I ask what type of 8C you have? LC, SC, Monza? Body?
Either way, a fantastic car! Congratulations!

We had an 8C in the family before. Sadly, no longer..

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madchloe

· #9 · Mar 9, 2008

Hello Gents
Thanks for those leads,

Hi Jonas,
I am making a Monza, I was fortunate enough to work with a company that restored and maintained many 8cs, I fell in love with them and just have to have one, so I started collecting information, drawings and parts...now I have the chassis, radiator, bulkhead,and most of the running gear made, This coming year will see many more detailed components out of the way, and then the question of engine and gearbox???

Does anybody know anything about this recent addition to Utube?

Cheers

C

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Odin

· #10 · Mar 11, 2008

Does anybody has more information, about Monza Recreations?
I think C & G Cars are really expensive. Who else produce Cars?
Thinking a Bugatti T 35-51 Replica isn't much easier to produce, so normaly an Alfa Recreation shouldn't cost four times as much.

Regards
Jörg

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kompo3740

· #11 · May 23, 2008 (Edited)

For those interested in making and or exchanging 8C parts I would be interested in talking to you.I have a Bugatti T37A replica under construction for which I have made most of the major components myself,crankshaft,rods,axle trumpets,along with castings from the BOC I have machined myself.I am currently involved in an 8C restoration project.

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Alex

· #12 · May 23, 2008 (Edited)

kompo3740 said:
I was involved in the 8C2900 MM belonging to Ralph Lauren in 2005.

You may be familiar with Hero Alting, the Bugatti specialist in Germany, then? He displayed a 2900MM recreation at the Essen TechnoClassic show last month. Apparently the Lauren car was used as a template. He used a 6C2500 chassis with a "S10" engine discovered in Italy.

Jim Stokes, in the UK, makes plenty of 8C parts. G&S Valves, also in the UK, makes springs, valves, and dial adjusters.

For Bugatti parts, contact Crossthwaite & Gardiner, and Ivan Dutton - both in the UK.

Racing Green is also producing 2900 replicas, but I've no idea about the quality of their work.

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kompo3740

· #13 · May 23, 2008

Hello Alex;

I'm not really looking for any Bugatti parts, but looking at my next project,hopefully an 8C replica.Thanks for your help in that direction.I would really like to team up with others doing the same to defray costs and time with each of us going down the same road.Much of the cost of making parts invloves tooling and setup time.My Bugatti project has most of the major components already.I referred to it mostly as a matter of experience. Thanks again

Thane Heal

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Il Vecchio

· #14 · May 23, 2008

kompo3740 said:
Hello Alex;

I'm not really looking for any Bugatti parts, but looking at my next project,hopefully an 8C replica.Thanks for your help in that direction.I would really like to team up with others doing the same to defray costs and time with each of us going down the same road.Much of the cost of making parts invloves tooling and setup time.My Bugatti project has most of the major components already.I referred to it mostly as a matter of experience. Thanks again

Thane Heal

Pur Sang in Argentina reproduces Alfa 8c's

No connection, etc.

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