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Hi Everyone,

Those little cups for the assembly line mounting were missing on my 1957 750d, so we are putting them back on now.

Does anyone have the dimensions of those bits and maybe some pictures? The bodyman put some back on but they looked too small to me. I would like to be sure that they look the part. Also pictures would be great to show the detail of overlapping metal and welds for the frame members going to the outer rocker / sill frame part.

Thanks in advance!

I think we are almost done all the metal work.

The tricky trunk still needs some ironing out.

Cheers,

Rich
 

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Hi Rich,
My 750d had a January 57 delivery date. After reading your request, I went to look for the fixture points. I know I've seen the mounts your referring to in manuals, but there aren't any on my 750d, or my 58 750f. It's been said no two Giuliettas were built exactly alike, but I suspect there's a good chance yours never had them either. If it helps, I can get you some underside pictures tomorrow.
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I also went and had a look at our Spiders, they are on our October 750D and our July '60 10103, but not on a friends April '62 10103.

I could believe 1 or 2 missing, but not all 4......

Agree with Brad, the only certainty with Alfa was change....

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Hi Brad and Greig,

Thanks for your responses.

I agree that their production line could vary depending on all sorts of things. But I would have thought that they would need to travel down the line the same way every time. I can't see " production" happening any other way.

We have been checking another '58 ( I think , definitely 750f) locally and it has them.

I feel like when both rockers get replaced (likely most cars will have experienced this by now) with misc rust repair in nearby rails, it would make sense that all 4 could get left out.

We have them measured out and ready to go now. I sure hope that they are meant to be there. A bit of a waste otherwise on this barely seen detail.

Hmm.

Thanks for your help guys!

Rich
 

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Oh ya, mine is October 31 1957. Spooky!

No. 2869

What are your car numbers, if you don't mind?
 

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Ours is 02806, a European spec 750 SWB with vent windows

With Lucie's Ti in an old mountain pass on the way back from another Giulietta Tour and the National Alfa Convention 2 weeks ago.

I'll measure mine & you can have them made - short lengths of pipe with an end cap welded in & turned on a lathe will replicate them nicely.

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Giulietta Spider tooling points

Hi Rich,
My 1957 750d without the mounts, is 1493 01298
My 1958 750f, (and I was wrong, after a second look) the cup shape features are there, is 1495 03863
If you would like pics of these on my 58 spider, I'll post some. Sounds like you may have the work complete though. Have you found any other 56 and 57's Spiders with the cups?
I'm a retired Manufaturing Engineer, and I agree, production lines absolutely don't like variation.
 

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Greig, your car looks great. That's a good picture of them with the tight corner with the trees in the background. Put in in sepia tone and you'd think it was vintage.

Mine is also a European spec. SWB with vent windows. As far as I know Canada got the European versions of ALFAs until 1970. Pretty close numbers on our cars. I'm not sure what sort of time it would take to make 60 Spiders but our cars would have been pretty close at one point in time. Now, pretty darn far apart.

Brad, thanks for your offer of the pictures. If you could post them, that would be great. Mine are made and about to be installed, so I don't "need" them. , but it would be nice to see them in the right location. Also, I was having a hard time finding other good pictures for correct size and spot , so for posterity's sake, I think it would do Alfisti a world of good to have a good , posted reference here. Have they never been moved? Rocker repairs?

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Here are underside pictures of my 58, no 3863. I remember reading that in the fifties Alfa factory, and presumably PF, a journeyman worker was teamed with an apprentice to work together on the line. Notice in the rear photo, the fixture point weld is a big glob of filler metal, and nearby, the trailing arm mount weld is a beautiful fillet.
 

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Cool! Thanks for those photos and measurements. Perfect timing for the metalworker to put on. Hopefully I will see them on the weekend. Thanks for taking the time to do that, Brad.

That was quite the blob. I guess they don't give the important stuff to the neophytes. Makes you wonder if any cars came careening off the assembly line. WEE!
 
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