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Hi all,

simple question: do headlight rings have the "Proiettori carello" engraving?

I'm pretty sure that the smaller ones have it, not sure about the bigger ones.

Thanks in advance.
 

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Yes, the larger rings do have the stamping and/or engraving -- visible in some of the press pictures.

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Thanks Ruedi!

Now the problem is just where to find them...
 

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I believe these rings are available from most of the suppliers of 2600 parts (e.g. OKP offers them here).

My headlight rings were in reasonably good condition, but re-chroming turned out to be expensive, because the script had to be engraved once the copper base was established, and the engraving alone cost me $400 -- and had to be done more than once because it turned out to be very difficult to engrave a script looking straight on a surface that is curved in two directions. The difficulties encountered are the reason why I believe the original scripts were stamped, not engraved.

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Thank you Ruedi,

must check if those sold by OKP have the Carello stamping/engraving.
 

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Nope, both those for sale at Classic Alfa and OKP don't have it.

One month ago I mised a complete NOS set - four rings - for sale at €550.

I believed it was too expensive but now that they have been sold, I realize that I was plain wrong.
 

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I believe these rings are available from most of the suppliers of 2600 parts (e.g. OKP offers them here).

My headlight rings were in reasonably good condition, but re-chroming turned out to be expensive, because the script had to be engraved once the copper base was established, and the engraving alone cost me $400 -- and had to be done more than once because it turned out to be very difficult to engrave a script looking straight on a surface that is curved in two directions. The difficulties encountered are the reason why I believe the original scripts were stamped, not engraved.

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Reudi,Expensive yes,but turned out beautiful.Wonder if this was,or could be done with a Laser or etching process?
 

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I don't know if laser engraving or etching could be done -- but I doubt it wouldn't be any easier than engraving.

One of the issues is that the script requires an indentation that is ideally in the underlying metal and then gets covered by copper and chrome. This is a VERY delicate process which caused problems, too. Copper is incredibly soft! If you look at the copper-covered ring shown above, you'll see rubbing marks from shipping and handling above the "o" of Carello -- which had to be polished out before chroming. Then, there were tiny burrs from engraving that also had to be polished away, but that led to issues with polishing compound sticking in the engraved script -- and, so I was told, the more the part is being handled, the worse it gets.

Other than complaining about the scripts looking crooked (which all parties thought was a reasonable concern), I had no direct involvement with engraving and/or chroming. I know one of the rings had to be brought back to metal, straightened, re-coppered, etc before the engraving could be done again. Not that the engraver did anything wrong -- it was just part of the learning curve. The process involved 3 companies in 3 towns in 2 Provinces, Shipping back and forth took about a week in each direction for for each step. At the end of the day, I believe none of the companies made any money on this order (and they probably will not want to go through such pain again).
 

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Hi all,

Here's a link to J Chadwick Co., a company specialised in engraving metal car parts. They show 'Proiettori-logo-Carello' engraved headlamp rings, as examples of their work, on their website.


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Hi All,

So far I found out that all company's which are selling these 2600 spider headlamp rings have no proiettori-carello script

FYI original they have the proiettori carello script.

rgds Franco
 
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