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Hi All,

I'm about refurbish the wiper set up/ motor on my 102 Sprint.

I've been looking around and have found that in almost each press shot I can find, the wipers are set differently. Either operating right to left or vice versa, or with one wiper pointing upward quite sharply and the other fairly 'flat' to the base of the screen, or both being set upright on the glass.

It seems that LHD or RHD makes no difference. The last two pics below are from the same shoot and car, and even they have two different set-ups!

Does anyone have any opinion/ experience on what is either "correct" or "best"?

I have two different arms (which I believe is correct). One with the tip angled to the right and the other angled to the left - creating a sense that they are left side and right side arms - and therefore can only be fitted one-way. BUT the press pictures confound this.

Any thoughts/ pictures/ experience of other Sprints?
 

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Some are "restored" vehicles

My dear sprint friend. The trouble with pictures, especially ones of restored cars, is that many times the restorers don't know exactly how the windshield wipers fit themselves. One can by not being careful how the drive cable is strung through the escapements which hold the arms (I mean the pieces with the wheels pushed and pulled by the cable under the dash on the other end of the stem holding the arms) make the wipers move (looking from the front) from a parked position on the far left and sweeping right, or opposite, or even to oppose one another. I saw a 2600 Zagato at Festivo Italiano when it was first restored and it had its wipers in what seemed to me a totally backwards fashion.

However, the last photo you show is the official factory photo (also in Fusi) taken of my car, AR10205*00019, the very first sprint ever completed by Bertone enough to rush it to the Brussels car show in January 1961. It was barely together. I include of it another picture to show that its interior had merely thrown together fabric covered drivers door interior panels. And, I confess, also to show how in those days Alfa used an elegantly dressed model to promote the car. I just went to check to see how the wipers still fit. Since the engine has never had the head off I suspect the functioning of the wipers has also never been changed. The location seems to be the same as in the photos.

It is NOT like the spider on which the arms are one straight and one bent. On the sprint both are bent, but one to left and one to right. The arms park (looking from the front) to the left, just opposite of how I have always set my wipers on the spiders. If I hadn't gone down specifically to the garage to look I would never have noticed. I also notice that the arms themselves have a different manner of attaching to the stems that either sedan or spider (both of which I have).

I have had nothing to my sprint except put on a starter, change the plugs, clean out the varnish from the gas tank so I could get it running. I had not wanted to provide any photos of its current disgrace, but I do have one showing how the wipers are parked now. I realize, however, that this car may have had its wipers changed too when it was painted a brick colored red by some fly by night who could just as well have used brick dust and a brush. The paint is flaking off, and the car must be repainted. But not yet. I am still torn between the "duty" of restoring it to white due to its history or to the brilliant red that it should have been. I know the BB community gets hung up on authenticity, but over the last fifty years I have seen how color on cars can make a real difference. I have had spiders in white, several shades of red, pale yellow, light and dark grey, and both light and dark blue. I've had one in the almost maroon red too (see the avatar). But the last redo of that car I finally was able to carefully pick the exact bright color red that most fits my idea of what a two liter spider should look like. The picture in my minds eye of the sprint that same color appeals to me far more than it does in white (with all due respects to Don Peterson and his beautifully restored car). De Gustibus not est disputandum.
 

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I had a red two-litre. Based upon my experience, red on an Alfa makes them rust.
 

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Jay, thank you. I shall therefore assume my current set up is correct and find some time to start the job.

I'm with you on the colours thing. I think white on a Sprint makes it look like a police car. The grey/silver on mine I believe to be grigio-medio and in the right light it pretends to look like an Aston ;)

One other thing... In the press picture of your car it's wearing a set of the 'correct' Sprint-only hub caps. The design and availability of which seems to now be entirely lost. Much to my frustration and failed searching. Please say you still have them?

And if anyone else does have a set of these elusive hub caps I'd love to buy/trade them. Fingers crossed!

Thanks again Jay.

Don, your comment about red paint made me laugh so loud that the lady sitting next to me on the Tube (London underground) moved seats. Not an Alfa fan then?!
 

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Marc

Still confused on this one and we may have discussed this before. Do you mean hub caps as below as i have just sold with my Sprint? Some are marked berlina inside

If so I have 5 more in average condition which are restorable . or James Wheeler at Black and White garage shoud still have a mint set of 4 which I sold to him.

Some are too tight to fit on the studs on the wheels , by a few mm just don't quite go on - don't know why unless they are for a smaller wheel on a 105 series car. Could be fixed by using a spring clip mounting as on a VW or as I have also seen recently on a Maserati.

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Yes, those ones exactly!

I must have been confused when we spoke about these last. I didn't realise you had some. Apologies.

As far as my research tells me, these are the 'correct' hub caps for 102 Sprints only. The other much more common style we see is for the Roadster, and the Berlina has a different design again. The 106 series had yet another design for the Sprints.

I think the Vignale 102 specials also used these 'Sprint' ones, but can't be absolutely sure.

I'm going to the Cotswolds Alfa Day on the 25th June. Will you be there? Perhaps I could get a look at the set you still have?
 

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Some are too tight to fit on the studs on the wheels , by a few mm just don't quite go on - don't know why unless they are for a smaller wheel on a 105 series car.
The smaller hubcaps could be from a 1900, as indicated in this thread.

BTW, I doubt this type of hubcap was used only on the Sprint. The Road & Track picture in the first post of the thread mentioned above shows them being fitted on a USA model 2600 Spider. I have a hunch that, while they may have been introduced on the 102 Sprint, they were used on 106 Sprint and Spider as well and that such use initially may have been somewhat random, possibly as an issue of inventory management during production.
 

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The mystery of non fitting hub caps exists on all my cars

On the 2600 spider I bought some replica caps in 2009 . They fit the four road wheels fine , but none fit the spare.

On the sprint I have just sold , I have 9 hub caps all of which fit the two wheels on the right hand side of the car, but none will fit the two wheels on the left hand side.

I sold 4 new replica hub caps to James Wheeler at Black & White Garage but none of them fitted his Berlina. He then found some OEM hub caps which all fitted.

The hub caps nearly fitted , and could be knocked home with a rubber hammer but this would split the chrome and lead to rust.

As ever I think Alfa changed the build spec slightly somewhere and new don’t fit old and vice –versa

A fix would be to move a hub cap stud . but then you face the challenge of bigger hub caps getting loose and rattling – one of mine does that already

A neater solution would be to replace one stud with a spring clip from a VW – I have seen similar on a Maserati as photo . These clips are available on Ebay or from VW/Porshe specialists

Oh and to answer your question - I can't make the 25th -scout camp! Try James for his mint set.
 

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2600 Sprint wiper blade lenght

Does anyone know the proper length of a wiper blade for a 2600 Sprint.
It seem that wiper blades for a Berlina and Spider (105.00.65.503.03) are different (shorter?) than those for a Sprint (106.02.65.503.00). I have bought a 2600 set - 12" (30.5 cm) which I think, are suitable for a Berlina and Spider. The look too short on a Sprint windscreen.

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I don't have size information, but if you measure the distance between the wiper nuts on your car and compare them to the distance and blade length in this press picture, you may arrive at a good value.
 

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Regarding the wipers..... I have noticed that the early 2600 sprints are Bosch and the later series 1 cars are Marelli. This may cause the wipers to park differently. Maybe they use different wiper motors.. My 822269 Bosch car wipers park exactly as the photo Ruedi posted. My Marelli electrical car # 823229 wipers park exactly like the second photo of the car with the sunroof....
I have not yet checked to see if they use the same wiper arms yet. If you need measurements of the arms I can help.
Ruedi my 822269 is off the fabricators next week..... we will straighten the fender. When I pulled the engine the damage is quite manageable.
Ciao Ric
 

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I made some measurements in comparison with the photo Ruedi posted, I think that wiper blades for a Sprint must be 13" (33 cm) long.

Philippe.
 
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