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hi guys,
nice to see a such an enthusiastic alfa page.i just purchased my third alfa a 1995 alfaromeo 164 super 3.0 v6 24 v auto.done 47000kms from new an ex embassy car .has not been used for the past six years .just getting the timing belt changed.any advice of common problems & what to do and not to do will really be appreciated .

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Has car been stored for 6 years without being started or driven?
 

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Congratulations! If can post up some pics.

The most obvious issues to address are routine maintenance.
Do you have records? If not, or if they are overdue, change all fluids.
Also, when was the timing belt last changed? Even if the mileage does not call for a change, time is a factor as well.

Other than the HVAC readout usually not working, I can’t think of much else. I am sure others will chime is.
Enjoy the car.
Sam
 

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No Not been properly stored nor started , not run for the last six years since they got a 166 super.the petrol pump was replaced just before i got the car.
 

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Thanks it was a dream come true .Will love to do that as soon as i find out how to post pics , since i am not much of a computer buff

It was maintaned very well when it was in use but since getting the 166 super it was abit neglected.they have lost all service records.in the process of getting the timing belt changed.but will have too wait till i get it from singapore since it is not available here.thanks alot for the information and advice really appreciate it.
For sure will enjoy it being mesmerised when one of my friends had one and i drove it most of the time.

Romesh
 

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Where are you getting it shipped too?

How does it run? I would hope they cleaned out tank when they did fuel pump and changed fuel filter. Guess mileage is low at about 47.0000km x 0.62137 = 29204 miles so I would do timing belt and inspect timing belt idler pulley and tensioner bearings closely.

If it was me, I would be sure that cams are in proper time with timing dies locking cams and use proper tensioning tools to set belt tension correctly.

Same goes for serpentine belt which I would also replace and check pulley bearings.

Not trying to scare you, but it is very important to have a very knowledgeable person doing timing belt change who knows how to pull off valve covers and verify cams stay in time (that is why alfa made the cam lock down timing dies.

Probably would be wise to change all fluids and bleed brakes to get clean fluid in system, too.
 

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I am getting it shipped to Sri Lanka.
Still did nt run it since i was scared of breaking the timing belt & messing up the engine.There is a couple of guys who used to work at the last alfa romeo agents here.They were going to remove the petrol tank and clean it .I am replacing the timing belt anyway since it has not been used for a long time .These guys have the alfaromeo recommended tools for the timing belt change.I really appreciate all your advice since it would get really scary if you don t look after a car like this.Will tell the mechanics to change all the fluids as you mentioned .Thanks a million great to have a forum like this to help each other.
 

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Looks great in silver. They never made the 94 or 95 versions (Supers) in that color in the USA.
 

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will do that as soon as i get some , the car still is at the mechanics trying to get the timing belt changed .can t wait to drive it.
 

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will do that as soon as i get some , the car still is at the mechanics trying to get the timing belt changed .can t wait to drive it.
The steering wheel's on the right side too! :)

Anyway this answered a question I'd had for a long time - what Singapore number plates looked like. My last 164 came from Singapore and arrived without any holes drilled in the front bumper for the number plate. I see that the number plate looks like a large piece of plastic, stuck on with double-sided adhesive tapes, I'm guessing...

One thing I found with my 164 was that all plastics/rubber components were very brittle. E.g. tyres were perished, the spark plug leads were 'springy' not soft, the ABS sensor plugs fractured at the slightest provocation (leaning over them into the engine bay), the engine 'dog-bone' reaction mount small bush fell out in hard coal-like pieces, coolant expansion tank had to be replaced (it was split), and both headlight bulb plugs fell apart.

These may have been coincidences, but I blame ground-level ozone or something like that... could have just been where my car was stored, but discussions with a specialist brought up mention of a couple of other Singapore import cars where plastics/rubber was brittle. In addition, I have an older 164 now and I've noticed a lot of things that are *not* broken as they were on my other one... so I guess I'm just suggesting to treat everything plastic as though it's brittle - be very gentle prying plugs apart etc. - and it will be fine, as mine never really had any problems due to this, it was just something I noticed.

Congratulations on picking up such a great looking car and I'm sure you will share many happy kilometres together! (Note - One of the infamous stepper motors (temp control) is accessible from behind the instrument cluster, in lieu of the 'hole in the glovebox' approach. The other is behind the pop-out square plate in the glovebox.) ;)

Cheers,
-Alex
 

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The timing belt and check all the idlers, a tensioner bearings. While in there replace the belts. I would also replace the rubber fuel lines and have the injectors cleaned. Check the rubber coolant hoses and the runner brake hoses. A car that has been sitting with low Km can be iffy once put back into service. It should be a nice car once completed.
 

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You should get the belt tensioner overhaul kit at the same time as changing the belt. All the valve clearances need checking and adjusting at the same time. Have you done the gear oil, clutch and hydrolic fluid as well? Doesn't take long.

Check the small top engine mount, the engine tie bit. If perished it will allow too much vibration and you will need a new front section of exhaust.

Mine had been in a field for 2 and a half years, started first time (with a new battery) and did another 35k miles in 18 months with no problems.

Check the springs on front, they were a recall in the UK as the plastic bits on the end to stop squeaking caused them to rust and break. If it makes a boingy noise on full lock have a good look, as they don't look that broken when they are, but could put a bit of spring through a tyre whilst driving. Mine was a 1990 and I don't think they were sorted out until 1992 onwards.

Also watch out for the door latches, they snap, the mechanism inside, and the handles outside. Very light weight design, but gets metal fatigue over the years and the parts are unavailable, but easy to get made, or get second hand. This was also changed on the later models.

Great car, worth the effort, does the aircon still work if fitted? Get that serviced if it has not been used for years, the seals shrink.
 

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Hi,

Your 164 looks immaculate in the pics. One small thing I noticed and I may well be wrong but your exhaust pipe looks like it is sitting a bit low. Probably nothing but maybe take a peek at the rear support just in case.

Happy motoring,

Richard
 

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Thanks guys for all the advice really appreciate it a lot.timing belts and adjusters are being replaced , and all fuel hoses and all the ac components are blocked and stuck.need to replace.you are right about the exhaust need to get that checked.will keep you ll posted when i drive it.awaiting the spares.
 

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Out of interest did you see the guys in South East Asia who did up a 164, put new koni shocks on it, did a total restoration job. It was online as a project a couple of years ago, antway they thought they had one of only 2 164's that made it to that part of the world.

You may have the only one in Sri Lanka, or the whole of that part of the world by now! Happy motoring.
 

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would have love to see that restoration.we have about six 164 super 3.0 v6 here.about fifteen 164 2.0 twin spark.but mine is the lowest mileage i think.we have an italian car enthusiast club in sri lanka had a track day recently.can you post a pic of your 164.will try to post some pics of the event.
 
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