My 89 spider won't start so I have tried a few fixes, I have been following82 won't start tread and have been trying to fix each item. Here is what I have done. Thought from threads posted the last couple of weeks that fuel injectors were bad so sent it out to Greg at OKINJECTORS. It came back with information sheet, not too bad. Greg cleaned all injectors so I started to put everything back on the car.
I started by going through Bosch L-jetronic tune-up 11 steps
1. Went through all hoses added silicone new ones in a few places, everything seems good. The only I did not clean out was the canister behind front wheel well.
2. Cleaned all grounds and even changed out main ground under car, clean and tight. Cleaned all grounds on intake manifold and ground to battery. Cleaned up ground behind front seat by ECU. Checked and changed all fuses in fuse box.
3. Voltage check Battery cold reads 12.45, on trying to start car 11.50
4. Flywheel sensor. The Gray one reads 1021 and the black one I purchased new from IAP it reads 990.
5. VVT, someone has changed out cam at some time, there is no place for the VVT to push in on cam cover, I have a spare engine and it has the correct cover, so not able to make adjustment.
6. Cold start,
CTS reads 2.11 and connected
TTS I can't get it to read on my meter so I purchased a new one and put it in, I can't get the new one to read as outlined.
AAV will not open when cold or put in the freezer, so for this to start the car I have take it out and connected the hose direct, I figured this would be fine to start the car. I left electrical connection on the AAV
4. Fuel pump, I replaced the fuel pump last year and the fuel filter yesterday. I can hear the pump start up. The fuse behind the seat is good. I DID NOT CHECK THE FUEL PRESSURE. I took out cold start and it sprayed good stream of gas. When I took hose off of cold start high pressure gas sprayed all over me and car.
6. Injectors. As stated above I sent out to OKINJECTORS with entire rail. Greg sent back all ready to put into the car. While it was out I took off intake manifold put in new gasket and cleaned the entire manifold, did not polish as Tifosi pointed out hard to see it anyway.
7. Air flow meter. AFM moved fine I cleaned it up and advanced a 6 teeth and silicone it back down.
I could not clean up ideal since car won't start.
I have been following French problem and have been following along and checking as advised.
1. Battery 12.45 cold and 11.50 on cranking.
2. Spark plug: Went through like ghnl stated found TDC firing order correct lined up on distributor on mark.
3. Fuel rail lots of pressure but I did not test.
4. Cold Start injector squirts gas fine.
I can smell gas when trying to start.
5. harness connections, are all good except for TTS as soon as I can get car to run I was going to change the connection part of the plastic is broken put it is making connection since the car does not move or start.
6. Check spark plugs they were not fouled, when I started plug two had burnt away the bottom parts of the spark plug and even arc marks on the spark plug metal. My book shows the plugs should have a gap of 5mm. I put in my old plugs since the one Bosch was burnt they show a gap of .043. I put a spark plug in each connector and ground as stated and have spark at each plug. Hard to tell on the color so when it gets dark I am going to test again. COULD THE PLUGS NOT BE GETTING ENOUGH VOLTS?
7. Took ECU out of car cleaned both connections they looked fine, not sure where the ground on the ECU is located it only has the three nuts holding it in place, does one or all of the nuts make up the ground, I made them all clean and tight.
HOPEFULLY SOMEONE WILL HAVE AN IDEA, DON'T HAVE MUCH LEFT TO CHANGE OUT. THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL THE THREADS.
Papajam got the wires figured out for me, SHOULD I GET THE NOID LIGHT NEXT LIKE TIFOSI STATES.
I started by going through Bosch L-jetronic tune-up 11 steps
1. Went through all hoses added silicone new ones in a few places, everything seems good. The only I did not clean out was the canister behind front wheel well.
2. Cleaned all grounds and even changed out main ground under car, clean and tight. Cleaned all grounds on intake manifold and ground to battery. Cleaned up ground behind front seat by ECU. Checked and changed all fuses in fuse box.
3. Voltage check Battery cold reads 12.45, on trying to start car 11.50
4. Flywheel sensor. The Gray one reads 1021 and the black one I purchased new from IAP it reads 990.
5. VVT, someone has changed out cam at some time, there is no place for the VVT to push in on cam cover, I have a spare engine and it has the correct cover, so not able to make adjustment.
6. Cold start,
CTS reads 2.11 and connected
TTS I can't get it to read on my meter so I purchased a new one and put it in, I can't get the new one to read as outlined.
AAV will not open when cold or put in the freezer, so for this to start the car I have take it out and connected the hose direct, I figured this would be fine to start the car. I left electrical connection on the AAV
4. Fuel pump, I replaced the fuel pump last year and the fuel filter yesterday. I can hear the pump start up. The fuse behind the seat is good. I DID NOT CHECK THE FUEL PRESSURE. I took out cold start and it sprayed good stream of gas. When I took hose off of cold start high pressure gas sprayed all over me and car.
6. Injectors. As stated above I sent out to OKINJECTORS with entire rail. Greg sent back all ready to put into the car. While it was out I took off intake manifold put in new gasket and cleaned the entire manifold, did not polish as Tifosi pointed out hard to see it anyway.
7. Air flow meter. AFM moved fine I cleaned it up and advanced a 6 teeth and silicone it back down.
I could not clean up ideal since car won't start.
I have been following French problem and have been following along and checking as advised.
1. Battery 12.45 cold and 11.50 on cranking.
2. Spark plug: Went through like ghnl stated found TDC firing order correct lined up on distributor on mark.
3. Fuel rail lots of pressure but I did not test.
4. Cold Start injector squirts gas fine.
I can smell gas when trying to start.
5. harness connections, are all good except for TTS as soon as I can get car to run I was going to change the connection part of the plastic is broken put it is making connection since the car does not move or start.
6. Check spark plugs they were not fouled, when I started plug two had burnt away the bottom parts of the spark plug and even arc marks on the spark plug metal. My book shows the plugs should have a gap of 5mm. I put in my old plugs since the one Bosch was burnt they show a gap of .043. I put a spark plug in each connector and ground as stated and have spark at each plug. Hard to tell on the color so when it gets dark I am going to test again. COULD THE PLUGS NOT BE GETTING ENOUGH VOLTS?
7. Took ECU out of car cleaned both connections they looked fine, not sure where the ground on the ECU is located it only has the three nuts holding it in place, does one or all of the nuts make up the ground, I made them all clean and tight.
HOPEFULLY SOMEONE WILL HAVE AN IDEA, DON'T HAVE MUCH LEFT TO CHANGE OUT. THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL THE THREADS.
Papajam got the wires figured out for me, SHOULD I GET THE NOID LIGHT NEXT LIKE TIFOSI STATES.
