[Andrew]

Dropped to $5000, if you're interested let's please talk.
Andrew

 

[DPeterson3]

Hello Andrew

I hope someone picks up your motor. I found that most Alfa owners, and particularly 2-liter owners, just don’t recognize the huge value of having a good stock of “ready spares”.

For my 1960, I had it all ready to go to Concorso when a bearing spun. I had a fully restored engine in a box. Two days later car was running again.

For most “driver” Alfas the matching-numbers stuff is just white noise. For a 102, it becomes material. None of my cars had matching numbers, so it was never an issue, but if I had a documented car and motor, I’d buy a spare engine, hop it up, and drive it, keeping the value-adding motor restored and in a box.

A minor issue is that your engine is the earlier configuration. The rear main bearing is wider than the later version. That sounds good, but the reason I believe they changed is that the early wide-bearing cranks were more prone to breaking. I had two early cranks end up being scrap due to cracking.

 

[Andrew]

Thanks Don.
I knew of a couple engineless 1900s back when, which is what I thought I'd do with it. That era has passed.
Did I have a 2000, I for-dang-sure would have a spare engine. If no one bites might go with BaT, as yours, though mine will go as is.
Andrew

 

[Roadster55]

what condition are they in?

 

[Andrew]

I describe above, complete and turn over, came out of a running car 20+ years ago. Engine compressions are 120/60/120/60. Cams and whatnot look good but I have no history. Carbs I'm sure need going through. Trans, same, feels fine, but prudence dictates caution. I would not put either in a car without at least opening up to see what's what.
Andrew

 

[Andrew]

Happy to talk, take pics, etc., if you want to know more.
Andrew

 

[LCskibird]

1959 cast iron 102 series 2000 engine from a Touring Spider with matching split-case five-speed trans. I bought 7-8 years ago, came out of a Spider than received a small-block V8 transplant. Engine AR00204*00249*, complete other than one plug on oil filter housing. Includes cast header, starter, Marelli distributor, Solex carbs and airbox, Lucas and Marelli generators, stamped steel oil pan, flywheel, clutch slave and rod, transmission with four-bolt output yoke for eight-bolt donut. Have the donut if you want too.

Compressions 60, 120, 60, 120. Cams and tappets all look OK, exhaust clearances .016 to .022, intake clearances .008 to .013. Been in my garage since I got it. Complete but candidate to rebuild. I got it because (1) it came up and (2) I had visions of a 1900 project but that never happened.

Asking $5000, happy to discuss; I don't need it. Shipping would be a hassle but I can put on a pallet or get it to a freight depot if you make the arrangements. I'd figure 450 lbs for the engine, about 75 lbs for the trans. In Berkeley CA; I have a hoist to load, etc.

Andrew

Sir,
I this engine and transmission is still available, I would like to discuss.
Thank you

John

 

[LCskibird]

Hello Andrew

I hope someone picks up your motor. I found that most Alfa owners, and particularly 2-liter owners, just don’t recognize the huge value of having a good stock of “ready spares”.

For my 1960, I had it all ready to go to Concorso when a bearing spun. I had a fully restored engine in a box. Two days later car was running again.

For most “driver” Alfas the matching-numbers stuff is just white noise. For a 102, it becomes material. None of my cars had matching numbers, so it was never an issue, but if I had a documented car and motor, I’d buy a spare engine, hop it up, and drive it, keeping the value-adding motor restored and in a box.

A minor issue is that your engine is the earlier configuration. The rear main bearing is wider than the later version. That sounds good, but the reason I believe they changed is that the early wide-bearing cranks were more prone to breaking. I had two early cranks end up being scrap due to cracking.

Sir,
Could you recommend a rebuild shop somewhere within driving distance of Las Vegas?
thx
John

 

[DPeterson3]

Sir,
Could you recommend a rebuild shop somewhere within driving distance of Las Vegas?
thx
John

John,

that might have been me, but for the last year I am living in the Colombian Andes with a beautiful Latina who enjoys dancing the tango. With me.

Ignoring the drive time….

I recommend that you have both engines and transmissions be rebuilt by Larry Dickman jr in Tracy, CA. It’s driving distance for both you and Andrew, so win-win.

Call Larry. Be nice. Tell him you don’t care what the price is. Make the deal, and don’t be a pest.

 

[LCskibird]

John,

that might have been me, but for the last year I am living in the Colombian Andes with a beautiful Latina who enjoys dancing the tango. With me.

Ignoring the drive time….

I recommend that you have both engines and transmissions be rebuilt by Larry Dickman jr in Tracy, CA. It’s driving distance for both you and Andrew, so win-win.

Call Larry. Be nice. Tell him you don’t care what the price is. Make the deal, and don’t be a pest.

Thank you for the information Don! And enjoy the Andes! I have spent time in Quito and Lima myself. Very good interior leather work down there!
Cheers,

John

 

[DPeterson3]

Thank you for the information Don! And enjoy the Andes! I have spent time in Quito and Lima myself. Very good interior leather work down there!
Cheers,

John

There are several reasons I recommend Larry jr.

He’s been around plenty of 1900/2000 cars.
He has some parts.
The labor and legwork on these engines and trans will easily equal or exceed the parts’ cost. As he has huge experience, it will take him far fewer billable hours to get it all done.

 

[LCskibird]

There are several reasons I recommend Larry jr.

He’s been around plenty of 1900/2000 cars.
He has some parts.
The labor and legwork on these engines and trans will easily equal or exceed the parts’ cost. As he has huge experience, it will take him far fewer billable hours to get it all done.

I absolutely understand that! some folks don’t get that time thing…..I haven’t heard back from the engine owner yet however.

 

[LCskibird]

There are several reasons I recommend Larry jr.

He’s been around plenty of 1900/2000 cars.
He has some parts.
The labor and legwork on these engines and trans will easily equal or exceed the parts’ cost. As he has huge experience, it will take him far fewer billable hours to get it all done.

You owned Two Stampe’s? Im jealous! Sold my Stearman and J3 and now have a P40 project……Alfas are more economical…..

 

[Andrew]

Yes, still available. I was out of town a few days. Talking to two folks on it but no one has laid any money on the cam cover. Happy to discuss.
Andrew

 

[LCskibird]

Yes, still available. I was out of town a few days. Talking to two folks on it but no one has laid any money on the cam cover. Happy to discuss.
Andrew

Hello sir,
I sent a DM(I think) being interested in your engine/gearbox. Not sure how to discuss offline.
Thx much!
John

 

[Andrew]

I didn't get one from you. Email me at watry ATT prodigy DOTT net
Andrew

 

[Andrew]

Tentative deal pending, thanks.
Andrew

 

[Andrew]

Fully sold to a good home.
Andrew