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I am almost ready for some reassembly of my engine and I would like to know who makes the best gasket set. I looked at OKP, Cassic and so on. Does anyone have any experience from OKP - I think theres looks better - the classis one looks like it has a split cork gasket for the oil pan. Not sure I trust the other sources.

Also, Did Alfa paint the aluminum parts like the cylinder head silver? I am having to scrap silver paint from almost every alumininum part. What a PITA.

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I cannot comment on gaskets. Period documentation (the pages below are from the Owners Manual and the Engine Shop Manual on the CarDisc CD) seems to indicate that the head and valve covers were black crinkle finish -- but I'm sure there are people who know more than I do about 102 engines.
 

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Doug,

At this point, all of the 102 complete gasket kits on the market are coming from the same manufacturer. I don't recall the name, but the gaskets are OK, if not wonderful. Several of them are different than the original, and some won't fit all that well. The price is better than it used to be, though.

The exception to this might be from AFRA. Of course, they are woeful at marketing, but I bought a complete gasket kit of theirs several years ago, and all of the gaskets contained were first rate. The kit came in a big cardboard box, and it appeared that they had taken time to find and assemble OEM gaskets for everything. It cost more than the ones from OKP, etc, but if I need another full gasket set, that's who I'd talk to first.

There is another company, Dichtungen Schwarz, that makes head gaskets. Very, very high quality. Fairly expensive. PITA to do business with. Probably the best head gasket I've ever bought for a 102.

Lastly, there have been a few guys on the BB that have undertaken to have one or the other difficult gaskets made. Specifically, the copper exhaust triangle and head-to-pipe gaskets (all of these are different from the later all-aluminum engines). Another fellow had the rear bell housing plate to crankcase gaskets made. The ones from OKP et al are just a thin paper unit that's not shaped right. The original is a fairly thick gasket shaped sort of like a squished "H". You might be able to find them by searching the BB, and see if they have any left.

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Oh - the engines that I've been around that I felt were original, had a black-painted block, wrinkle black head and cam covers, and funny pan color that I think was sort of a greenish-blue. A very odd color, as I recall. The front and year aluminum plates were generally left natural, if memory serves.

I believe the "Alfa Romeo" script on the cam covers was original painted over with the same black wrinkle, but most of us cannot resist the temptation to wipe that part clean, leaving a shiny script standing out from the black wrinkle.

I've left the head on my 2300 natural aluminum, and the block painted silver, with powder-coated black wrinkle for the cam covers (shiny lettering). Given the uniqueness of this engine, I'm happy this way. The two 2000 engines I'm working on have black powder coated blocks, and natural end-plates. I've not painted the heads, leaving them natural aluminum. Black wrinkle cam covers. I find that too much black in the engine bay sort of depresses me.
 

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I need some help on these brackets I am missing. I do have something for the carbs, but it is nothing like what the manual shows - that, and it is kind of a hack the way it was made as well. My oil gauge line was just regular hose - it looks like the real hose maybe similar to that expensive coiled hose at 150 USD/ft.

Pictures and a few measurements could help me a lot.

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The two upper brackets are for the heat shield. Do you still have the shield. Few cars still have those.

I don't have any spares of these brackets. Sorry.
 

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Yes, the cylinder head and the cam covers should be in black wrinkle paint. The spray can variety of this from a NAPA or other auto parts store will work fine. Krylon is OK.

Be sure to:
1. Make sure all previous paint is stripped and there's no oil on the surfaces.
2. Heat the parts a little so that they are well warmed, but not hot. Do this by leaving them out in the sun on a hot day or by warming them in your kitchen oven. If the parts are cold, or even room temperature, the paint will not wrinkle enough as it dries.
3. Use two good coats just thick enough that they don't run.

I've done this three times with great results. I took a fine flat file to the raised Alfa script on the covers to expose the aluminum.

If you are missing the heat shield, I have one and might be willing to sell/trade it.
 

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Don, I dont have the shield. but I plan to make one if I can see what the brackets are supossed to look like.

Thanks Stu - I dont think the cylinder head is supossed to be painted. just the cam covers and the air manifold.

Serge, I want to know what the hose looks like. Is it the tubing with a wire surround like the fuel tubing and what color should it be?

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Hi All,

I have an original heat shield for my car but missing the 2 brackets..............


FYI there are 2 types of heatshields for 2000 touring

a long and a short version

rgds Franco
 

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I found some pics on the site for 2600 brackets. They dont look so hard to make and maybe I can make some drawings for those. Franco, could you take some dimensions of the shield you have - especially the hole distances.

Oh, I am looking at making the short version.

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Thanks Don, I am trying to get just the bracket I need from the guy on Ebay - if not I will just make it with the two shield brackets. All I needed was a decent picture and now I have that.

On the oil pressure tubing - is the link Serge provided the right stuff?

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Yes I looked in that post Franco. Was that the correct mounting for the smaller shield where the exhaust manifolds are mostly visible?

I did start drawing up some brackets for the shield. From the looks of the pictures I have seen - it looks like M6 hardware is used for fastening the cover to the brackets. Could you measure the three hole to hole centerline distances on your shield and the hole diameters? I would use paper first over the part to trace the holes then measure the paper flat.

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I remember when I first came to this forum, Don asked if I was drinking man for buying a 102 - I dont drink, but maybe I should.

From that start a year ago or so, Don had asked to see my car - so I will now start to show some pics of that. Here is the engine bay as I saw it when I bought the car, and here it is the cylinder head now.

The Alfa Romeo did not look good in red as I had hoped on the covers so I went with the standard there. I think red will still look good for the head lettering - I hope.

All of the parts are the original ones which came with the car except for the seals, gaskets and the like.

I had the parts either nickle plated or zinc plated. TDF a local company here did a great job and they didnt loose any of my parts.

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Very nice. Perhaps you can save your drinking for a future bottle of champagne.
 

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Hi Don,

Years to go before I drive....

Oh forgot to say, valves, guides and thermostat and one shim are all new to.

Doug
 
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