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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 05-18-2018, 05:38 PM Thread Starter
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Cancelled my Stelvio Quad.....

Talk about a big letdown.....

My dealer just notified me that my Stelvio Quad came in. However, just as I proceeded to start the paperwork, they told me that the Quad was not "leaseable".......meaning Alfa doesn't offer any lease options on the Stelvio Quad at the moment. Given that I generally don't like to buy 1st year models, esp. Alfa's with their questionable reliability, I was definitely NOT interested in financing it. Not only that, they marked up the MSRP by an extra $3,500! (which is kind of funny given how poorly Alfa's are selling).

Anyways, Motor Trend reviewed the Stelvio Quad recently. Although they praised the performance aspect saying that it was extremely fast, they also lambasted it for it's poor interior build quality (squeaks, rattles galore). Given these facts, why would Alfa force interested buyers to purchase or finance the car? Leasing such a car is the safer way to go, but I guess Alfa knows "better."
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This was the same scenario when the Giulia Quadrifoglio came out - Alfa didn't officially offer any leases on them for the first year. Chrysler Capital does not know how to write leases for this vehicle because they are so new to the market they don't know what the depreciation will be, and they don't want to get burned if it is more than they estimate. And they probably feel there is sufficient demand for the vehicle right now that they don't have to offer aggressive lease deals.

I am surprised your dealer didn't look for alternative leasing options other than factory financing for you, instead of simply stating a lease was not available. There are many other companies that banks and dealerships use for leases such as Ally Financial, and you can probably get your own bank and/or credit union to arrange a lease as well. You can, literally, lease anything from a new car to a million dollar collector car.

Now, of course most factory lease deals are heavily subsidized, and you may lose that aspect if you lease with a 3rd party company but the option is still there for you.

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This was the same scenario when the Giulia Quadrifoglio came out - Alfa didn't officially offer any leases on them for the first year. Chrysler Capital does not know how to write leases for this vehicle because they are so new to the market they don't know what the depreciation will be, and they don't want to get burned if it is more than they estimate. And they probably feel there is sufficient demand for the vehicle right now that they don't have to offer aggressive lease deals.

I am surprised your dealer didn't look for alternative leasing options other than factory financing for you, instead of simply stating a lease was not available. There are many other companies that banks and dealerships use for leases such as Ally Financial, and you can probably get your own bank and/or credit union to arrange a lease as well. You can, literally, lease anything from a new car to a million dollar collector car.

Now, of course most factory lease deals are heavily subsidized, and you may lose that aspect if you lease with a 3rd party company but the option is still there for you.
I actually did brought up the possibility of 3rd party leasing options, but the dealer was giving me the impression that they wanted to really sell the car to the highest bidder. (hence the markup)

I really do like the Stelvio Quad, but I'm not that desperate to be taken for a ride. I can wait. Besides, early reviews about the bad build quality has me a bit concerned right now. It might be smarter to wait a couple years to see how the model progresses. Maybe in a couple years, you can pick up a Quad for half the price given the terrible depreciation of Italian cars.
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I actually did brought up the possibility of 3rd party leasing options, but the dealer was giving me the impression that they wanted to really sell the car to the highest bidder. (hence the markup)
I get that, it's human nature to try and make a quick profit when a new car is in high demand, but IMHO it is a short sighted strategy on the dealer's part.

For example I know a couple of dealers that charged huge markups on the first 4Cs that were available, and in the process really turned off some loyal Alfisti. In contrast, dealers who sold their initial 4C allocations at MSRP stand a good chance of selling a Giulia or a Stelvio to the same customer.

You are probably right - you'll be able to pick up a Stelvio Quad next year without all the games.

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Sounds to me like you’d pretty much already decided not to take the car from the reviews. Which is your perogative of course.
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... Maybe in a couple years, you can pick up a Quad for half the price given the terrible depreciation of Italian cars.
Italians certainly aren't alone in that arena. My buddy is selling his near mint 2009 750Li, +$80k new. I was shocked to see the going rate for that car is under $5k...
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Amazing. Do they want to shift cars or fail again? Shocking IMO.

Wonder what Sweater man will think of this if and when he finds out?
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I drove over to Shreveport recently and drove a Stelvio and I was impressed with how quiet it was. Granted it wasn't a Quad but it was quick and tight with near zero rear vision. The interior was nice and although it wasn't super RR luxurious it was tasteful and well done. As far as a Quad Stelvio I gotta agree with Clarkson on this one, why have a slower and worse handling crazy expensive Quad option when the Giulia has it in spades. But hey, I get it. Assuming they weren't fudging the numbers they said they'd sold 15 cars in the last month. If you know the Shreveport/Bossier market that's not to bad.

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That Alfa interiors are poor quality thing that some reviewers come up with is complete bs. They are just trying to make up some sort of fault because they think it balances the review. We have two year 2000 156s, one 20004 GT, one 2007 147 and a 2007 159 in our family and there are no problems with the interiors of any of them. I also have a pair of 2007 GT front seats in my Range Rover classic and they are perfect. Alfa make just about the most comfortable seats you can get in a car too.

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My sister just bought a new Stelvio but, it wasn't the QV version. I really would like to buy the Giulia QV Coupe.
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Seats are great . . Especially the Sports versions with giant bolsters. . . I would avoid it if you are a wide person!

As far as interior quality, seems pretty typical for current market of $40k cars . . . for cars in the $80k range? Maybe not so much

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Not sure about poor interior quality.
I drive Stelvio, absolutely nothing wrong with interior...
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I own one and love it and laugh at reviews where the worst thing they pick on is the turn indicator or av knob. Coming from a M5, it s been fun, easy, comfortable with zero issues. Sure the values will take a hit and am banking on 4Cs with high miles darkening my garage door in the future as it will as timeless as my 67 GTV is now. So glad to see that the emotion hasnt left Alfa's dna in teh new versions, its the main reason I have them in my life vs everything else.

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I own one and love it and laugh at reviews where the worst thing they pick on is the turn indicator or av knob. Coming from a M5, it s been fun, easy, comfortable with zero issues. Sure the values will take a hit and am banking on 4Cs with high miles darkening my garage door in the future as it will as timeless as my 67 GTV is now. So glad to see that the emotion hasnt left Alfa's dna in teh new versions, its the main reason I have them in my life vs everything else.
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I went to pick up my Stelvio from dealer after mechanic broke windshield when they were fixing some recall issue... I could wrote full page of issues and funny stories with Maserati dealership (not the car itself), it goes beyond my understanding how poorly they treat customers. After third attempt to pick up the car I asked if I can get Q as replacement car, I was told they don't allow customer to test drive it.
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