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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 08-14-2019, 05:50 AM Thread Starter
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Random die while driving

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Driving around again and 87 spider randomly dies. Some lights blink then just goes out. Starting is strong, but after it dies sometimes nothing on the dash comes on when the key is turned and nothing goes to the starter. Battery is charged, lights under the dash are still on in the car when the no start issue happens. My guess is the ignition switch- how do you test/ would the car just randomly die if the ignition switch is going out?

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I’m going with ignition switch.

Cost is not a bank buster, but R&R can be fiddly.

I use my column key just to lock the steering and installed a toggle switch and push button for starter.

The button comes in handy when I need to jog the car in first or reverse w/o the engine running.

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Iím going with ignition switch.

Cost is not a bank buster, but R&R can be fiddly.

I use my column key just to lock the steering and installed a toggle switch and push button for starter.

The button comes in handy when I need to jog the car in first or reverse w/o the engine running.

Search the forum for a schematic.
Now that's an interesting idea. Where did you end up putting the button? assuming you just took one of the wires to the switch and routed it to the button?
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Although the knee bolster is likely in the way, otherwise it is easy to find and bypass the wiring from the ignition switch. Connect Red (12V+ power in) to Brown (12V+ out) to power on the ignition and all switch controlled circuits. Add power to Black (temporarily) to send power to the starter motor.

The violet wire is for the drive relay bypass circuit - to ensure the fuel pumps are powered on when the key is turned to 'start'.
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Love the photo. I did that same thing 35 years ago when my buddy broke my key in the ignition switch of my 74 VW Thing.
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