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post #16 of 36 (permalink) Old 07-19-2019, 01:27 AM Thread Starter
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Tom Frasca, Thanks for looking in your parts stash - is it the black with brown top Bosch one, which is emerging as the forums 'concensus' on the matter.
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180OUT, Have you a picture of the coil your describing ?
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I have been reconsidering the cam cover bolts for a while now - I have the originals, so may put back..... Have have been reconsidering the head nuts as well - I have the originals, so may put back (again, undecided).
I'm not getting what's wrong with Gary's cam cover and head nuts. Is it that the plating is too bright?

Given how fresh the rest of his underhood looks, I wouldn't say that the cover & head hardware stand out as incorrect. My instincts would be to leave them as they are.

Back to coils: I might run a slightly incorrect coil before I would run a 50 year old coil. A little Google research shows that Porsche suppliers carry Bosch coils with brown tops. One of these could be painted black and the appropriate decals ("BOSCH germany" & "importe d'allemange") applied (does Osso make those?).

Something like:


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I use the original coil in my 101 Sprint Veloce because it runs well and do not see any reason to upgrade a car that is only driven on special occasions. I know that 105 cars used Bosch electrics and not Marelli.
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Thank you Vivace - I have been reconsidering the cam cover bolts for a while now - I have the originals, so may put back (undecided).
Not criticizing at all, they look great. I've just always seen them dull, but maybe that's from age. I would leave them on.

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I'm not getting what's wrong with Gary's cam cover and head nuts. Is it that the plating is too bright?

Given how fresh the rest of his underhood looks, I wouldn't say that the cover & head hardware stand out as incorrect. My instincts would be to leave them as they are.

Back to coils: I might run a slightly incorrect coil before I would run a 50 year old coil. A little Google research shows that Porsche suppliers carry Bosch coils with brown tops. One of these could be painted black and the appropriate decals ("BOSCH germany" & "importe d'allemange") applied (does Osso make those?).

Something like:

The ones I have are a light blue. The correct ones for this vintage are more of a blue/green color..

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This was mine....faded and ratty enough to be original.
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Other numbers on bottom: 130 K12V
Sticker colour looks a faded green, more than blue.
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I have a Bosch coil that has a black body with a red top part number 0 221 500 002. I have an Alfa Parts Book and it said that you car could have used a Bosch or Marelli coil. The Marelli coil has a external ballast resistor similar to what was used on later Alfas, and the Bosch coil only has an Alfa Part number. I did not realize that Marelli coil and distributors were used on 105 series cars. I used to own a 1967 Spider and it had Bosch electrics.

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Good spot on the BS AEU seatbelt plate. It is indeed an original UK car - delivered straight from the factory to London in June 1967.
Here is the same plate BS AU.. as placed on my 1972 GTJ 1300 also London delivered, but on the left inner fender.
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This was mine....faded and ratty enough to be original.
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Other numbers on bottom: 130 K12V
Sticker colour looks a faded green, more than blue.
Thank you for for posting those pictures. I think the new one is a close match and might work for most folks. A little black paint and a sticker, good to go.

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Here is the same plate BS AU.. as placed on my 1972 GTJ 1300 also London delivered, but on the left inner fender.
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That plate is for UK seat belt compliance. I've seen a few other marques with that same plate on them. Gary had one made for his car. I provided the graphics and the company he found did a fantastic job. The best part was they do one offs at an affordable price. Gary's picture below.
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The UK seat belt compliance plates look good.
I would be interested in two of them.
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Thank you for the pictures Ranz, that was exactly what I was looking for.

The common concensus then, seems to be that this coil (black with brown top and green/blue "Made in Germany" oval BOSCH decal is the one that's correct.

Thank you all for your input - now I know what I'm trying to replicate - I think it might be wise to go with a new coil with a brown top and make the rest of it look like the original in Ranz pictures.
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I provided the graphics and the company he found did a fantastic job. The best part was they do one offs at an affordable price. Gary's picture below.
Hi Osso, Can you please send me the graphics as well I think you have my e-mail.
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Hi Osso, Can you please send me the graphics as well I think you have my e-mail.
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I sure can. I can even point you to the company that Gary had them made. I'll get you the info in a bit.

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Back to coils: I might run a slightly incorrect coil before I would run a 50 year old coil.
You guys probably won't like mine....Installed by the PO in the mid-80s. Completely wrong and in the wrong place....but it has never not started!


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