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Windshield Wiper Motor tail length

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I have a 1991 Spider Veloce.

I will be driving the car a lot more lately than previously, almost a daily driver. I decided to replace the windshield wiper motor as it was too slow. I did not want to try and rebuild it, but replace with new.

I ordered a new motor from Classic Alfa. As you can see below, the length of the electrical tail is about 6.5" shorter than the original. Original in Black, new in White.

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I contacted Classic Alfa but they told me that's the only one they sell.

Anyone else have this issue?

I was able to connect but it is way too tight for my liking.

Any thoughts?

Vin

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1987 Spider Quadrifoglio - Red on Grey - Rosa - Sold
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Not ideal, but you could just splice in appropriately colored wires to lengthen the pigtail.

Is the harness from under the dash extended through the firewall as far as possible?
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don't you just hate this with badly thought out aftermarket parts? there is always something not quite right, even the wire colors are nothing like the originals (the ones they sell in Germany at least have the correct color wires!!)


I just replaced my wiper motor too on my S4, but only because I came across a NOS item in alfa package, by searching the original alfa PN 60504280, for cheaper than what the usual suspects sell their repros for!
Also Centerline had an original for 82$ last year in their NOS garage sale on BB classifieds. Great value.

If you are not happy you could cut the black connector off about 6 inches up the loom and solder the wires to the new motor harness and shrink wrap them individually.
But it shouldn't happen, period!

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Not ideal, but you could just splice in appropriately colored wires to lengthen the pigtail.

Is the harness from under the dash extended through the firewall as far as possible?
Yes, I thought of making "extensions", wire with male and female on each end. Probably will do that.

Yes, the harness is extended as far as possible.

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don't you just hate this with badly thought out aftermarket parts? there is always something not quite right, even the wire colors are nothing like the originals (the ones they sell in Germany at least have the correct color wires!!)
Yes, I was really surprised to see such a difference.

I am wondering if the S4, 1991 - 1994 model had a change and that this shorter length is ok with the other models.

I don't think that I am the first S4 owner to purchase this part from Classic Alfa.

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Vin, whats the Bosch number on that replacement?
I'm just wondering why the CA one has wrong color wires....when

if you check in Italy
https://www.spitline.com/index.php/m...3-alfa-33.html
or Germany
Scheibenwischermotor Alfa Spider Bj.1986-1993, 149,00 € - Autoer
at least the wires are the same colors!!

it might be worth mailing and asking the german company to measure the length of the wires....compare that to your original and if they are the same, I'd send the CA one back and tell them it is wrong.
simple (though annoying and costly, I know)

oh and here is an original, but for silly money!
https://www.alfa-onlineshop.de/detai.../sArticle/4177

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Vin, whats the Bosch number on that replacement?
I'm just wondering why the CA one has wrong color wires....when

if you check in Italy
https://www.spitline.com/index.php/m...3-alfa-33.html
or Germany
Scheibenwischermotor Alfa Spider Bj.1986-1993, 149,00 € - Autoer
at least the wires are the same colors!!

it might be worth mailing and asking the german company to measure the length of the wires....compare that to your original and if they are the same, I'd send the CA one back and tell them it is wrong.
simple (though annoying and costly, I know)

oh and here is an original, but for silly money!
https://www.alfa-onlineshop.de/detai.../sArticle/4177
Classic confirmed today again that the motor is the only one they sell "we sell lots of them".

I am guessing that this motor was used on several models and that the Spider, at least the S4 requires a longer tail.

All the pictures on the net that I see using the part numbers on the motor, show the long tail.

Yes, disappointing that tail length and wire colours are not correct but I don't think I will go through the hassle of sending it back.

I will make the extensions instead.

I have advised Classic of the issue but they don't seem to bothered by it.

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Yes, I thought of making "extensions", wire with male and female on each end. Probably will do that.
A simpler way would be to cut the connector and wires off the old one, cut the connector off the new one, and crimp the old connector and wires to the new motor. Fewer crimps and connections.

I understand it's a hassle, but you're driving a 30-year old car. Personally I'm just glad that new parts are available that can be made to work.

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or remove new harness altogether (break solder) and solder your old harness straight onto the motor, as original
(just get the colors right)

and that is a crap attitude by CA..."we sell lots of them"
big freakin' deal, that doesn't mean it fits an S4, for which it is advertised to fit.
That wouldn't work with me...that thing'd be back in the post to them before they could sell another
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