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post #16 of 22 (permalink) Old 02-26-2017, 05:34 AM Thread Starter
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I seem to be a little out of luck with this endeavour.. tried to take off the wheels, broke two nuts as they were screwed in too tight and deformed when taking them off. Luckily the bolts are intact so all I need is some new nuts... anyway:

The wheels do clear without the spacers, Alfaholics was right. However, even without any spacers at all, the original studs are not long enough to hold these wheels (just 4 turns of the nut). If I wanted to keep these wheels, I would need to replace the studs in the car with longer ones, as I won't be able to change the 22mm adapters to 10mm adapters, as they won't be wide enough to house the nuts and therefore would not accept the wheels which have no cutouts for protruding nuts on the flange.

Following options:

1) Discard spacers and current wheels and buy OEM or proper aftermarket wheels
2) Discard spacers and replace studs in the car with longer ones
3) Keep current setup and avoid bumps with a fully loaded car

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Sounds like you're making progress.

Hearing that you can go without spacers in the back reminds me again of my situation.
If I recall correctly, I didn't need a lot of spacing in the rear, maybe none.
But I definitely needed spacing in the front to clear the hub. Then I just did the same at the back as I did at the front to keep the track width consistent. I just don't recall how well I documented all my trials, findings and resolution.

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1) Discard spacers and current wheels and buy OEM or proper aftermarket wheels
2) Discard spacers and replace studs in the car with longer ones
3) Keep current setup and avoid bumps with a fully loaded car
Option 1 eliminated itself as it turns out the the PO shortened the original studs to accommodate for the nuts to not extend past the width of the spacers. I would not be able to fit any wheel to those studs anymore, nor would I be able to change the width of the spacer / adapter.

Option 3 is a compromise a responsible owner should not make.

Option 2 it is. I just talked to a garage and they will replace the studs with original ones, discard the spacers (and align my front wheels, change the tires and replace the retaining strap).
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if you replace the studs as in option 2. with original S4 studs, then option 1., going for OEM wheels, would also be possible, no?

are the azevs actually 'eingetragen' in your car papers?

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if you replace the studs as in option 2. with original S4 studs, then option 1., going for OEM wheels, would also be possible, no?

are the azevs actually 'eingetragen' in your car papers?
Right, once the original studs are back in, I could buy OEM wheels. But I have to say that I like the looks of the Azev wheels, provided they work as they should. And buying OEM wheels is a pretty costly option, as I don't fancy the phone dial wheel too much.

The "Gutachten" that I have is for the same wheel with a different offset, so I might need to find out whether I can legally run my wheels, good point.
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Right, once the original studs are back in, I could buy OEM wheels......and buying OEM wheels is a pretty costly option......
usually yes, but I just saw a set of 4 on ebaykleinanzeigen for 200 euros with tyres and centre caps.....cheap as chips, and they look first class condition to boot!
(kleinanzeigen Nr. 581860993)

maybe something to keep in mind, if all else fails

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Ok, the Spider is currently receiving some professional attention and new original wheel studs are being put in (retainer straps are also being replaced and steering adjusted).

This allows me to ditch the 22mm spacers and we already established that the wheels do not rub on the inner well. It looks a little funny due to the 35mm offset, which is why 5mm spacers will follow soon. Problem solved.

I tried to grab those OEM wheels (Thanks, spiderserie4), but another buyer beat me to them. Will stick to the current wheels for now.
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