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Got some time and pulled the exhaust headers today.
Thought I would find a rusted out spot to explain the exhaust leak.
Nope, poor welding at the 1&4 Y joint.
Probably leaked from new.
No idea how long these headers have been on the car but you would think some one would have noticed and fixed the leak before now.
I will bolt them to my junk head for repair.

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Two jobs I do NOT want to repeat!

Replaced both engine mounts.
Left not so bad since I already had to remove the headers.
Not fun, but not terrible.
Terrible is the mildest possible expletive for the right (Spica) side.
Had to separate the engine mount from the rubber, with the lower nut inside the steel channel getting about 1/12 of a turn at a time.
Yes, for both removal and install!
Job might have been easier if I had removed the starter, but the XXX spica is just too much work to take off.
I suppose NOW someone here will chime in with an easy way to do this.
Original mounts were the consistency of old chewing gum, and had sagged.
On the left a former owner or their hammer-mechanic has put a 1\4" wood shim under the mount.
At least my throttle linkage will no longer hit the engine mount at full acceleration.

Second job was completing the header repair.
Does anyone sell headers that do not demand two men, a boy, and sailors vocabulary to put back on?
Almost put the '73 cast headers on, but I do not have the collector for them.
If these leak again I will find the parts so that the cast headers may replace them.
And yes I did make the Old Rome pagan blood sacrifice, stud on the alternator nailed my hand.

It's a fairly nice car and will make a fine cruiser but I'm getting really anxious to get my Alfa "Kit Car" done.
I'm making easy service a priority of the build.
Will be as easy to work on as a sports racer, flip-up body front and rear, with the rest on Dzus fasteners.

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Completed the exhaust repair today.
Need to order new rubber for all of the tie-rods.
May as well do them while it's already on stands.

And as a small side note, I never owned a British car that had leaked so much oil!
Will have to pressure wash the Spider to find where the leaks are.
Hope they are not too hard to fix but I'm not optimistic.

I already registered for the FOC's Virginia City hill-climb.
Last year they were allowing Ford Focus and similar mundane appliances to run.
The Spider and I may well be the slowest car there but at least it will be an Italian car.
Seems very few Ferrari's show up anymore, "Too valuable to risk".
Sad state of affairs in my opinion.

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Good luck, sounds like you are making very good progress. A hill climb you say? Better pay extra attention to your front end bits, lest you fly off the road!

British cars leak, also. Mine prefers to leak while driving. My car self-undercoats.

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And as a small side note, I never owned a British car that had leaked so much oil!
One thing you must remember as an Alfa owner is that the longer you drive your car, the less oil it will leak. Some people say this is true even if you add more oil now and then.

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One thing you must remember as an Alfa owner is that the longer you drive your car, the less oil it will leak. Some people say this is true even if you add more oil now and then.
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Tested the TA again using hot water.
Noticed bubbles at the engine end mounting flange area.
Doubt that is a good sign and I only got 12.6mm of extension.
The capillary is not cracked but with the apparent leak at the body I do not know if this one can be rebuilt.

So it looks like I will be making a plug for the manifold and fitting the "Sure Start".
With the choke fixed I only have one more gauge to repair.
May just ignore the dead heater fan as it's clearly a major chore and I want to DRIVE my Spider THIS summer!

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Finished and tested the block-off plug in the intake, works fine.
Put back the factory "Main fuel filter", taken from the '78.
'78 is on Dellorto's, only two ports were in use, no return line.
For the '79 on SPICA I think I should be using three of the ports, one with a double fitting for the return line?

Drained the 79 Spider of it's old gas, bought five gallons each of 91 Oct. pump gas (highest normally available) and five of 100 Oct. race gas.
Once I've changed the fuel filter under the tank I will put in the ten gallons and see where the gauge reads.
Car should be happy with this octane even if it is not really necessary, just seems a good idea prior to an "Italian Tuneup".
Want to keep the octane fairly high so will try to keep a mix of race fuel and the 91 Oct. Coyote Whiz they sell at the regular pumps, trying to stay around 94 Oct.
May look into 100LL aircraft fuel if it's significantly cheaper than the $6.95 Gal. race fuel.
No worry about lead, the CAT was killed and removed before I got the car.
Have heard that aircraft fuel is "Dry", so maybe a bit of Marvel Mystery Oil to benefit the SPICA pump?
Ran 100 LL in a hot-rod FIAT 850 Spider many years ago, that little buzz-bomb was addicted to 100 Oct., it quickly needed a rebuild every time I tried to get away with "Normal" gas.

Did get a short test drive in the '79 Spider a few nights ago.
Speedo is terribly inaccurate and I'm not sure the tach is much better.
Still trying to fix the water temp gauge.
Have to drill out the plunger on the Shankle Sure Start cable end as the new wire gauge is just a tad heavier.
With that done and the device installed the car should FINALLY be able to be driven, at least around town.

Days here are almost too hot for driving this time of year but I'm REALLY looking forward to some night drives!

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Struggled to find out why the water temp gauge does not work.
FINALLY found the answer after pulling it out, no +power to the back of the gauge.
Also proves that stereo installers are sub-human, my fuel gauge power wire is now feeding some feature of the radio!
You would think that the former owner would have complained that he now had tunes but no temp gauge.
Now I need to remove the radio in order to sort out the gauge wiring properly.
Of course it's installed with those tabs folded behind the facia plate.
Access to the tabs is nil, this is NOT going to be fun.

Sure Start cable is cut to length and covered in shrink-fit sleeve to slow rusting.
I found a route for it without having to drill any new holes in the firewall.
Have to get a couple of fender washers to complete the install, mounting the pull knob to the back of the console so it will look stock.

New under tank fuel filter I got from an Alfa specialist does not want to fit well.
Fuel tank end fitting is fine but the fuel pump side should be smaller 3/8".
Nothing available locally, will try Summit Racing in the morning since I have to go there for the Red Line 75-90NS anyway.

I must be getting close, I put insurance on it today.

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Got the radio out at last, as I expected it is installed in such a poor way that it cannot be removed in any rational manner.
So I will have to repair or replace the only bit of wood veneer on the car.

With the radio out I can get to more of the wires near the gauges and attempt to replace the heater fan.
NOT happy to find several factory wires just snipped off in addition to the DUMB radio splices.
Wiring is my least favorite task so of course it also seems to be the most common first effort for any new car I get.

Hoping I can get the bottom of the heater box off by removing the five 8mm nuts.
Padding on the trans tunnel may not allow that but I'm still hopeful at this point.

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With the sound insulation directly under the heater fan cut out it is JUST possible to drop the heater motor.
Putting it back seems a little easier but for needing very agile fingers to get all the five nuts back into place complete with washers.
I now have a working two-speed heater fan.

Next up is to correct the rest of the wiring including the radio.
Will also have to replace several push-on spade terminal wire ends due to the original (brittle) white plastic insulators having shattered.

I think that I will be doing some mods for reassembly, captive nuts and screws in place of some of the factory rivets.
There is no rational reason for the console to be so hard to work with.

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FINALLY got the replacement title.
So I hope to get it registered in the morning.
Just need to tidy a few wires and replace the center gauge panel with the one I am making in aluminum.
Now that I have the Sure Start ready to fit I've found a reasonably priced TA.
Guess I will refit the TA since my Mom is supposed to also drive this Alfa occasionally.
This is definitely my one true "Old man car", SPICA instead of Webers, soft ride, roll-up windows, radio, leather seats, leisurely shifting, not impressive HP, "Grand Touring".

With this on the road I hope to be able to get back into building the Dio Tipo near racer to keep my blood moving.

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At least this time the outbreak seems to be rust-free, major accident free, and running!
Did not pay a lot but did spend money intended for something else.



Needs a serious tune-up, new tires, and some electrical work.
Minor paint touch-up and my gold Ronal basket-weave wheels should have it at least looking very good.
Wheels on on now are some sort of 14" Campy but I do not know the model, anyone recognize them?
Value?
Interior is pretty good, top appears to be recent, and I have a fiberglass top to put on it for the winter.

If the &@^^# SPICA does not get the engine much more lively after the tune-up it's getting changed to Webers.
A previous owner already removed the dead-weight of the cat, so saving me the effort.

Not planning to get carried away with this one, want to DRIVE it.
Do have a set of "Yellow" springs for it, not sure how they differ from stock.
Early Spica cars are getting collectable take the money you would waste on webbers, manifold, linkage .. find a well qualified Mechanic,and set it up correctly, you will be very pleased...if your from the northeast I would recommend one of the best..
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I have driven only Alfas since 1968 and that is a major disease but, I was hired by a major utility because I worked on cars for a hobby. The boss liked the idea that I could work in the field doing air pollution testing at a large generating station.
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Early Spica cars are getting collectable take the money you would waste on webbers, manifold, linkage .. find a well qualified Mechanic,and set it up correctly, you will be very pleased...if your from the northeast I would recommend one of the best..
I keep reading this opinion that Early Spica cars are getting collectable. I know that is true for the cars up to '74 or series 2 Spiders. Does it hold true for Series 2a Spiders?

What modifications can be made to the Series 2a cars, in peoples opinion today, without hurting their collect ability? Would the following hurt the cars value:
1) Remove Smog pump and back date exhaust to that of a stock series 2 car with the cast 2 piece header.
2) With that replacement of the air cleaner snorkel and air cleaner front cap with that from an earlier series 2 car eliminating the heater tube that was on the newer exhaust manifold.
3) After removal of smog pump, Replacement of the front head studs with proper hex plugs from earlier car.
4) 22mm ATE (so looks OEM) brake master cylinder.
5) Updating with earlier series 2 SS bumpers (likely those from Centerline for $2,500).
6) Electronic ignition (123 Ignition) and Blue Bosch Coil
7) Mildly hotter camshafts.

This is the plan for my 23,000 mile '77 one owner, original paint, rust free gem. Not sure if I will do items 6 and 7.

Her SPICA appears to be running well after a new TA from Wes Ingram and a tune up following his instructions. The SPICA is actually very easy to tune. So far no gas smell in oil when pulling the barometric compensatior or engine dipstick.

I have done 1-4 above along with new stock hydraulics for clutch and brakes. Original brakes calipers rebuilt by PMB.

I do have all the original parts for the smog pump etc. stored away should someone want to put them back on down to the bolts, washers etc. But in NC where I live, not having it is not an issue and I doubt the car will end up on the West Coast anyway. The orignal exhaust manifold was cracked so I did not feel bad replacing it with one from an earlier car along with some new stock exhaust bits. Having this stuff out of the car makes it much easier to work on, can now freely see front of engine and timing marks.

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