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Whats the best repair manual

I want to get a repair manual for my 88 Spider. What is the best one to get?

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I want to get a repair manual for my 88 Spider. What is the best one to get?
I got the full set of Alfa manuals (including shop manual, convertible top manual, and engine rebuild manual) from CarDisc. They are very comprehensive.
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In addition to the Car Disc DVD, you will want the color coded wire diagrams that BB member Papajam offers. They will make tracing Alfa electrons much easier than the cryptic schematics in the shop manual.

I took my digital copies of his wire diagrams to an office supply store and had them print out 11" X 17" color copies then plastic laminate them. Perfect for shop use.

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I have the full factory repair manual for your year car. I sold my 86 Quad several years ago, so no longer need it. $25, plus shipping. In near-perfect condition.
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Without sounding a creep, I find that the most comprehensive information is found right here ! The manuals I have on hand (including CarDisc) are useful, but you can't beat the sort of info you find on this BB. There are write-ups (with photos) for just about every task on the car to be found here. This is my first 'go-to' whenever maintenance beckons.
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I find that the most comprehensive information is found right here ! ....This is my first 'go-to' whenever maintenance beckons.
I agree up to a point. Sure, go to the Alfa BB, do a search, see if you can find the answer.

BUT, please don't start a new thread, asking BB members to type out a value or very basic procedure that can be found in a $10 manual. Or worse yet, ask BB members to post a scan of a manual, which violates copyright laws. If you can afford to own a hobby car and a set of tools, you can certainly afford a basic manual.

For what it's worth, I use a manual published by Brooklands. No it isn't comprehensive, but does answer basic questions (torque settings, fluid capacities, plug gaps, etc). Are these available for '88 spiders?


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Honestly, you can't have enough manuals because each one is edited slightly differently and so contains often obscure information not available in other publications. The old Climer Alfa manual, for instance, has stuff in it that you can't find in other manuals. Its fault finding sequence is still the best I've ever seen.
My advice: don't buy just one manual.

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I agree forums have always been a great source. But that is why I ask the question here with the experience of prior Alfa owners. I do want manuals but I have found many that are useless and want to avoid those.
Forums have helped with many of my prior projects (corvette, mustang, sport fury, challenger etc. ) but I also do not want to ask on every detail of repairs.
Most of my friends are from forums that I still run with today, but my Mustang buddy really hates me having an Italian car LOL

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....I ask the question here with the experience of prior Alfa owners. I do want manuals but I have found many that are useless and want to avoid those..
After all that, I'm not sure we have answered your question.

Given that you have a 1988 Alfa, I now realize that my recommendation for Brooklands' books isn't much help. Those only cover the Weber and Spica era Alfas.

Your 1988 Bosch EFI Alfa seems to require either CD's, or the factory manual that DPeterson3 mentions in post #4.

But are the factory manuals "good"? I can't say, having only owned older cars. But hey, when has Fiat ever turned out poor-quality products?

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I have the same question as the original poster graduate88 - except for a different model. An '86 Spider Veloce, which is the same series 3 as the '88, so the same advice applies?

I'm partial to hard copies over digital - can the CarDisc original Alfa manuals be gotten in hard copy?

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Centerline has reprints of the factory manual
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But are the factory manuals "good"? I can't say, having only owned older cars. But hey, when has Fiat ever turned out poor-quality products?
Yeah, they are pretty good. Seem accurate and pretty good procedures for the shade-tree mechanic.

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I have the same question as the original poster graduate88 - except for a different model. An '86 Spider Veloce, which is the same series 3 as the '88, so the same advice applies?

I'm partial to hard copies over digital - can the CarDisc original Alfa manuals be gotten in hard copy?
The CarDisc and the Centerline manual both cover '82 to '89, all trim levels, so it's the same manual. I've never had the CarDisc product but the manual package from AROC-USA is just a collection of PDFs. You can take them down to a copy shop and have them print and bind them. That's all the Centerline manuals are anyhow - print outs from a digital copy. Or do what I do - I look up the relevant section and then just print it out. Easier to handle in the shop and I don't care about my greasy fingerprints all over it or spilling something on it or whatever.

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Got the AROC collection for my vehicle after emailing Jim. @GV27, good point on the printing out relevant sections, or just taking to the print shop to have it bound and printed. Thank you.

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If you've got the AROC package, be sure to check out the parts manual. It's full of great, detailed diagrams often better than the diagrams in the service manual.

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