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Instructions: installing hard top (old style for 115)

I'm struggling to find good instructions / pictures showing how to install the hard top. My car's an 83 and I just bought a top because it was a great deal, included the latches, stand, etc. All for $80.

Probably needs some new seals but I'll deal with that.

This style of hard top is not the same as the one that came later.

Can you point me in the right direction?
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assuming the ht has a tab sticking out inward near the base of the "B" pillar, you need some kind of "J" hook with a nutted shaft to grab the convertible top mech at its mounting pivot.

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Is it a factory top or Parrish Plastics/Smoothline. If the latter, give them a call. A couple years ago they still had rear window and gasket to repair an old PP top.
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It is a factory hard top -- made by Alfa Romeo. It has two J-Hooks and the windshield clamps.

I'm just not sure where you hook the J-Hooks.

And do you do something with the chrome strips by the trunk?
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Hi jckevin,

You will need two people need to lower the rear of the hardtop onto the chrome strips on the rear deck and then slide it forward so you can secure the J-hooks on the inside base to the folded convertible frame and the windshield hooks onto the top of the windscreen frame.

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Uh oh! I guess I need to find those clips! Ha ha

Time to start grousing around

Thanks for the post!
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Hi jckevin,

This post (courtesy of Vintre) has some good pictures of the black Plastidip-coated clips you need to install on top of the chrome strips on the rear deck of your car, and the direction in which those clips should be oriented:

http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/spid...ml#post6378913

Once you have the clips mounted, two people need to lower the rear of the hardtop onto the chrome strips and then carefully slide it forward against the black clips before securing the inner J-hooks to the convertible frame and the windshield on the inside of the cabin.
I think you will find in that thread that the clips I show are for 1986 and on.

I believe your hardtop does not use them.

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Right on!

Any advice on where to buy replacement seals for this style? I think IAP has some or all of the seals.

And there's a place in Italy that does. afra.it
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I think you will find in that thread that the clips I show are for 1986 and on.

I believe your hardtop does not use them.

Good luck,

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Really? The 1983 Spider does not have the same chrome strips mounted on the rear deck?

News to me. When I purchased my '88 Spider, it came with an old Series 2 hardtop mounted using those same black clips installed on the chrome runners.

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the 83 does have those chrome strips but maybe you don't need to use the clips?

anyway, assume that I do need them, can they be purchased anywhere? I haven't looked yet having just purchased the top on Sunday.
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Uh oh! I guess I need to find those clips!
....if your hardtop does not have the corresponding metal tangs bolted under the 2 rear corners like the later hardtop has, then those black clips shown in Vince's thread will be of no use whatsoever.
Looking at the photo below (courtesy BB) of the original early alfa top, they don't.
Nor can I see them here:
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/6387449-post5.html

Here, you can see that if those clips were mounted on the forward screw of the chrome runners (as designed) they'd just be sitting there, doing sweet....uhmm...nothing
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/254385-post2.html

The Parrish tops had a tang an the back that screwed directly on to the chrome strip, as did the german Körbler "Targa" top.

I wonder, therefore, if the older 'original alfa-branded' top used rear fastenings at all?
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Any advice on where to buy replacement seals for this style? I think IAP has some or all of the seals.
Have you tried del priore?:

http://del-priore.com/shop/index.php...tegorie&cat=23

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