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What oil filter do you guys like best for an S3?

My 86 is still in the shop, and they changed the oil, among 1000 other requests I had. I was thinking that they put an Alfa filter on that came in a nice orange Alfa Romeo box, so I made a joke like, "so, what are you using, Fram?" Well, the guy says that as a matter of fact, they were..Alfa hasn't put out a filter in years. So...I'm not partial to Fram, for no particular reason other than it's a horrible filter to use on a BMW M20 that needs an internal valve. I've seen a Bosch filter at IAP for big money...

What do you guys like to use?

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Well, from the research I've done on this basically most filters not made by Fram (and they make filters under several other brands) is probably fine.

Myself, I like the Purolator PureONE PL14670 in the Spider. It's oversized vs. the stock filter and has good filtration media and other desirable design features. It's $7 on Amazon so not like you have to break the bank to get a good filter.

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IIRC Alfa filters are PRC nowadays but then what isn't? I'd used Fram for years without problem and then did a bit of digging based on Toms commentary several months back and don't so much anymore. Being in Italy, my choices are a bit different but UFI and Bosch seem to go on the car(s) more often. I like Mann if I can find them. FWIW Wix and Baldwin are very good filters. ciao jc

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I also use the Purolator 14670. It is a quality filter and readily available. I used to use Wix filters (good reputation) but the local independant parts store that used to carry them is now a CarQuest and sells CarQuest branded filters. Of course CarQuest filters may well be re-branded Wix...

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I use the Bosch heavy duty. I think of it as cheap insurance. I think it was $12.

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If you spend some quality time on 'Bobistheoilguy.com' you'll quickly discover that Purolator filters are prone to tears in the media and are a no go.

Some like Fram Ultra Guard, but my feeling is that any company that makes the basic orange 'tough guard' which is just so cheap and flimsy and universally reviled...cannot be trusted to make a 'Higher quality' filter.

I personally use the Wix (aka "Napa Gold" if it's easier to source and you don't the Napa label, lol)..the reviews are consistently positive and they;re built like tanks.

All the European filters (Mann, Bosch) all come up with very average reviews and aren't worth it.
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If you spend some quality time on 'Bobistheoilguy.com' you'll quickly discover that Purolator filters are prone to tears in the media and are a no go.

Some like Fram Ultra Guard, but my feeling is that any company that makes the basic orange 'tough guard' which is just so cheap and flimsy and universally reviled...cannot be trusted to make a 'Higher quality' filter.

I personally use the Wix (aka "Napa Gold" if it's easier to source and you don't mind the Napa label, lol)..the reviews are consistently positive and they're built like tanks.

All the European filters (Mann, Bosch) all come up with very average reviews and aren't worth it.
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All the European filters (Mann, Bosch) all come up with very average reviews and aren't worth it.
not sure a company that has being in the forefront of automotive history since 1886 (Bosch) would agree with that one!


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not sure a company that has being in the forefront of automotive history since 1886 (Bosch) would agree with that one!

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I liked the Mann filter, and also the Malhe filter for my BMW's due to the drainback valve. The Fram or STP filters don't have this.

I might go NAPA. I bought my first NAPA filter a few months ago for my jeep, and it was larger than the oil filter that Jiffylube put on..I'll look into the Bosch HD also.

I mostly want a better filter because I'm not going to be changing oil every 3K miles anymore- I'm over that. Especially with 3 cars! Summer and winter only these days...

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I liked the Mann filter, and also the Malhe filter for my BMW's due to the drainback valve. The Fram or STP filters don't have this.

I might go NAPA. I bought my first NAPA filter a few months ago for my jeep, and it was larger than the oil filter that Jiffylube put on..I'll look into the Bosch HD also.

I mostly want a better filter because I'm not going to be changing oil every 3K miles anymore- I'm over that. Especially with 3 cars! Summer and winter only these days...
The Napa/Wix really are nice filters and can easily go 5k-7500k OCI's. If you go Napa, make sure you get the "Gold" (all Wix are the Gold). The 'Platinum' line, for syn oil and extended OCI's actually don't perform as well, according to the tests, nor do their "Silver" line.

I was really concerned about the Purolator tears (I was using the PureOne), and did a lot of research on this and came to conclusion that the Wix/Napa Gold are the best all around filter.
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Oil filters that fit 2.0L S3 Alfa Romeo Spiders

I did quite a bit of research on this same subject about a year ago. Read lots of blogs, jotted down notes, heard a few horror stories. Here's what I came up with. I have included the manufacturer's "Series" name and/or item number (if it was referenced/available).

The filters in this first list are considered "good" or "recommended":

Amsoil
Baldwin B163
Bosch 3402
Car Quest 85521
K&N HP-2004
K&N PS-2004
Mobil1 M204
Motorcraft FL300
NAPA Gold 1521
PowerFlo 4670
ProLine
Purolator Classic/Premium Plus L14670
Purolator Pure One PL14670
Royal Purple 20-253
WIX 51521

The filters in this second list should be "avoided":

AC Delco Duraguard
Champ PH253
Encore
Fram High Mileage HM16
Fram Extra Guard PH16
Pennzoil PZ-34
Quaker State
STP S16

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K&N is nice for having the nut on the end. No more struggling with stuck-on filters.

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Bosch now owns Purolator and it's very likely that both brand names now come out of the same factory. A physical inspection would confirm.

NORSEMAN: According to Rockauto, Motorcraft no. would be FL300.

Many Alfas used a larger filter - Fram PH7 or equivalent, which is both hard to find and hard to fit. All Alfas that can use a PH7 type filter can get away with the somewhat smaller, but still large PH8A - it is very common (Ford 302). Catalog engineering shows identical specs other than size for PH7, PH8A and PH16.

Best bet in this size is Wix 51515XP or Baldwin B2HPG, both of which have a synthetic filter media for better filtration.

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Curiously you see a lot of Ferrari's with Fram filters on them and they are put on by Ferrari specialist shops and owners themselves?
I've always used UFI filters in my Maserati and have put the IAP sourced Bosch on my Alfa. Mann on my Volvo.
Not sure why, I have never researched it, just did it.
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