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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-06-2005, 12:34 PM Thread Starter
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Thumbs down $99.95 for just a head gasket?

local shop here in sacramento is trying to charge me that much for head gasket for my 84'. i bought one there 3 years ago for $ 27.95. shop has new owner.(Just the head gasket, no other parts )i guess i will mail order.
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Head gasket

Yo which shop in Sacramento is this? mike
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local shop

barbra's alfa............use to get good prices there, i guess no more
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Outrageous

This is a perfect example of the sort of shortsighted bs that killed Alfa in this country the first time. Makes me want to puke.

Order your gasket from the normal online/mail suppliers, and tell the local losers you did it.

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Well, prices have gone up, particularly on things from Europe. Centerline sells an aftermarket head gasket for approx. $30, but a real Alfa one through Jon Norman, etc., is going to be more.
Plus shops have to include a mark-up to stay in business. I don't know if $99 is extortionate or not, but I wouldn't automatically assume so. Plus, remember that the cost of parts is usually a relatively small percentage of the total cost of somethign complicated like a head gasket/valve job, all of which could set you back on the order of $1200 if valve grinding is needed.

If you're not happy with Barber's, check with Steve Bonney, who left there to set up shop on his own in Sac. In my experience, he's good.

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andrew....

$65.. mark up? i sell cars and we have nowhere a 300% mark up.
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As I said, maybe they're using original Alfa gaskets, not aftermarket. Call Jon Norman and ask what retail is on a factory Alfa gasket. It's not $30.

That said, they might be screwing customers. But this kind of mark-up is very common in small shops. It's hard to make ends meet, even at high Calif labor rates, so shops do what they can. I'm no capitalist, but jeez, that's the free enterprise capitalistic system we've evolved and that people in American seem to love. As always, if you don't like it, go somewhere else, or learn to do your own work. The only way I can afford to own all my cars is because I do all my own labor, and so pay shops neither labor nor markup.

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who is john norman?

and what is his phone number? location. thanks
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Jon Norman at Alfa Parts in Berkeley, CA (510) 525-9435. He's an independent parts retailer who has access to factory parts. Also a ReOriginals retailer. Also a partner in Norman Racing Group at the same location, which does race engines, sophisticated machining, heads, etc. Jon's been at it 25-30 years, and has been racing a GTV most of that time.

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local shop here in sacramento is trying to charge me that much for head gasket for my 84'. i bought one there 3 years ago for $ 27.95. shop has new owner.(Just the head gasket, no other parts )i guess i will mail order.
Maybe it includes installation labor .

Though the price is not listed on their parts catalog, Centerline sells Reinz head gaskets, which is as good (if not better) as the OEM ones. The price of Reinz gasket should be significantly less than that of OEM one... Worth making a phone call and see how much they are asking for one! I am not affiliated with centerline by any means, but they have been very helpful to both my mother (she has an alfa repair shop in Japan) and myself .

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Call Jon Norman and ask what retail is on a factory Alfa gasket. It's not $30.
At Centerline our Guarnitauto (Italian) head gaskets are $22 and our German Reinz gaskets (the same as OEM Alfa gaskets) are $42.

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Joe - Have you had any problems with the Guarnitauto gaskets or are they just as good functionally as the Reinz?

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Joe - Have you had any problems with the Guarnitauto gaskets or are they just as good functionally as the Reinz?
I've had a Guarnitauto head gasket on my GTV for 6+ years and a Reinz on my Spider for 2 years and they both seem to be doing their job just fine.

They look very similar in construction as well.

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