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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 07-22-2019, 01:58 PM Thread Starter
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Hood (Bonnet) Release Problem on My 66 Super

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When I tried to open the hood on my Super yesterday returning home from the Pittsburgh vintage races this weekend, I discovered that the release cable would not release the hood (bonnet, for the rest of the world). The cable has somehow come off or broken at the latch, such that I could pull the cable slack under the dash. Now I looked at the excellent write-up that 180OUT did for us a few years ago on how to remedy this, but the approach won't work on the 66 due to the two-piece heart on the grill interfering with the grille coming off after removing the locating screws on the grille. So of course I contacted our guru, Andrew, and he noted in his response that it will be tricky, and he is pondering the question in hopes of coming up with a solution. (Thanks for the quick response, Andrew!) In the meantime, I appeal to all of you who might have dealt with this issue in case you came up with a solution that worked for you on your 1966 or 1967 model year Super with the two-piece heart. Any help really appreciated!

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Have you tried spying it from under the car?.. like on a lift? If you can see it you can reach it.
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Hi, Uncle,
I have tried to see it from beneath and cannot find an angle where I can spy it. Might just be me...

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Well when you do get it open, that will be a good time to install emergency release cables. I have them on my Berlina but havenít needed them yet.

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Oh, yeah.. I Fergat it is a Super not a Spider.. Perhaps remove the center grille? looks to be accessible then... the latch swivels to the left side of the car when you pull the cable and is spring loaded to the center position, photo is my '72 to remind you what is there.
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Yeah, I'll definitely be putting an emergency release on it once I get in there. The difficulty in getting the heart portion of the grille off in order to get inside is that the top portion of the two-piece center heart is screwed into the hood (bonnet) itself. And I can't get a screwdriver into the tiny space to remove the screws holding the top of the heart to the hood. It is meant to detach when the hood is open, obviously. And it is the heart itself that prevents the grille from coming off even though I have removed all the screws holding the main portion of the grille to the bodywork. I am attempting to make a tool that would allow me to get the screws out from the top portion of the heart. I cut a piece of angle to form a thin shim and then cut just the very end of a phillips head off and will try to epoxy the tool together first, and if that doesn't work, I guess try to weld it together. I think that might give me a way to unscrew those pesky screws hiding above the main piece of the grille. No other way a phillips screwdriver is going in that space even when I tried to use a flexible shaft. It's just too tight.

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Is it possible to fish a coat hanger with a loop on it and holding both ends of the loop through the LH side grille starting as high as you can through a slot? Post #7 here shows where to pull .

Stupid question ... is the cable broken at the release handle or the latch? https://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/sed...g-tension.html

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Uncle,
I don't think grabbing the cable through the grille will work. Under the dash, the cable is securely attached to the pull handle, and I can pull the cable from under the dash and pull cable into the interior. That says to me the cable is either broken or somehow no longer affixed to the release mechanism under the hood. If I can get the grille out of the way, I am hoping to get some way to release the mechanism itself, not to get at the cable. I hope this makes sense, but I'm pretty sure the cable has come adrift of the release mechanism itself at the release point right next to the spring mechanism shown in your photo above.
I appreciate your thinking about this.
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I sent you some other ideas. Some kind of crazy long hook of stiff wire might be able to grab the latch piece. Push down on the hood to release tension. This one's a toughie on a Super with two-piece grille.
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I was just looking at my car, hood open. If you made a bar, sturdy but thin enough to fit between the slats, you could come in from the passenger side, push the latch toward the driver's side, open. The bar would be maybe 12-20" long, have a slight angle midway, so that it angles out through the slats, but the part inside would be parallel to the radiator support. That is, directly crossways. Achieve whatever angle is needed to get hold, and get some leverage. Pressing down on the hood slightly to relieve pressure on the latch would help. The latch pivot, where you're aiming, is dead center behind the emblem, and screw underneath. So aim for that. If you hear you're hitting the weird two-leaf spring thingy, you're very warm!

I can post a pic if that will help.

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I know this is frustrating but sooner than later will it get done with no damage.. Put some Tony Bennett or Frank Sinatra on and just plug away like you are try to escape Alcatraz with a teaspoon.
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Gentlemen,
While I feel less than confident about my ability to succeed with this, your encouragement will keep me going. I am going to try your approach, Andrew, and Uncle, your ideas about keeping calm are right on the money. Can't thank you enough!
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what I will try to do is:

_ remove front grilles, than you gain acces to
_ Take the lower part of the center grill out, Than you gain acces to
_ pook around with a screwdriver trying to move the latch to the drivers side
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Quad, you can't get the center grille off when a car with two-piece heart has the hood closed. It covers the center screw.

I'll get a pic when the sun comes up of my idea above.

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Quad, you can't get the center grille off when a car with two-piece heart has the hood closed. It covers the center screw.
I thought it was possible, but your right the upper part of the center hart covers the screw
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