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New aquisition ... 73 Berlina Twin Spark

Bought a 73 berlina couple weeks back and its now stripped out and at paint shop for next few months
started to comment on Andrews thread and decided to move it to its own

I bought it from an ex crew chief, who helped convert it to the TS, including making custom headers that are works of art. Its rough, Berlinas never got much love in the past, but I see that changing as they are the last affordable vintage Alfas, short of spica spiders. Body is surprisingly clean with minor surface rust. worst part is pass floor has hole in it and couple bubbles in front rocker on same side.


Andrew, anything you know from when Chris Off ? had it would be interesting to hear.
its a bot of a hodge podge now with the conversion and im probably gonna continue that thread much as I try, I cant seem to do anything normally or stock.

we'll see once i get it back from paint
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Hi and congrats on the car I like the interior colour and any chance of a pic of the engine bay. I have a T\S in my junior so I'm interested. Regards John.

Current cars 1975 spyder under resto, 1973 Berlina Resto 1976 Berlina parts car 1972 GTjunior fully restored, 1 complete rolling shell spyder.exit 1989 75 T/S sold
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Chris worked on it for a guy, I'll have to look up his name, was a bit screwy. Stop, start, back up, change directions. Car had a messy title history, and I think the owner eventually just gave it to Chris. Took some work to sort the title, but Chris got it all straight. He has a perfectly nice blue 2000 Berlina, didn't need another, so he cleaned it up and sold it. Had a regular 2000 at the time. I'll ping him, see what he recalls.

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another shot of the TS. Thinks its pretty much a stock 84 75TS short of a Volvo MAF and the coffee can filter
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How does it run and drive?
They could have certified this engine for the US, I'd think. I wish they had.
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How does it run and drive?
They could have certified this engine for the US, I'd think. I wish they had.
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Guy's name was Klaiss. I'll have to talk to Chris for more info.
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Runs well for being dormant for awhile, drove it back from Corralitos without issue
real squishy suspension, more 4x4 than point n squirt like im used to
I have a pile of parts im gonna try on it to get it where I like it once its back
Lil love will go a long way with it
Prob overpaid for it but was after a converted TS setup a the time
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I've never driven a TS, so curious how they are compared to traditional Nord engines.
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Cool. This car was haunting me. Might’ve been the best buy in the recent rash of scruffy Craigslist Berlinas. The cut out wheel well one seemed decent too but the ad vs correspondence caused yield.
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I worked extensively on the "wheelwell" Berlina in Eureka. Nice car in most respects other than the wheelwells. But yeah, I don't think I'd buy it at any price.
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Pinshaw- you got any closer shots under hood of that "coffee can" air filter ? Looks like a more satisfactory (effective) solution than some of the rice racer, K&N type arrangements some of us have resorted to, maybe.
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That TS engine looks like it was made to fit in the nice wide Berlina engine bay.

Back in the day it was 'de rigueur' to update a Giulia with a bigger engine (2L or 1750), I fitted a hot 2L & LSD to mine.

But, when I get around to recommissioning the old girl, I'll fit a TS motor. Having owned a TS 75 (Milano) that is one sweet car & engine.

It would great in the Berlina too!

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Sorry Ive been off loop for a couple weeks, I'll get a pic of the coffee can next time Im at the body shop.
Speaking of which, here is what a month of Sundays got me. I was promised 1-2 panels a week and so far, we're pretty close. Car really isnt bad sheet metal wise, but will still need a few patches as we go. Dropped off the interior today and picked out a cinnamon leather for seats that hopefully will look good when done. Def be better than what we have now. Need to do a starter order for CA and get the headliner and some door seals on their way. Far as driving, the biggest thing I noticed compared to a stock 2L was low end torque, which with a 4.56 rear, made corner exit speed fun n painless. Could only do so much with an unknown tune and wishy washy suspension. I was more concerned with getting home on my own power than pushing the envelope. Looking forward to getting it back in the garage, tuned to my liking and playing up in the hills. Ciao for now.
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I worked extensively on the "wheelwell" Berlina in Eureka. Nice car in most respects other than the wheelwells. But yeah, I don't think I'd buy it at any price.
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Yeah, I once asked some guy who'd worked on it if $7K or so valuation seemed OK and he said seemed reasonable.
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