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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 11-25-2016, 08:07 AM Thread Starter
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It looks like the 1300cc is coming out.

So since I have stripped the threads on one of the head studs in the block, I find myself at a cross roads. I could just fix this by pulling the head, and installing a time sert with the engine still in the car...however, the thing is leaking oil...I cannot quiet discern from where, but I I think it is the front seal and rear seals. Moreover, 3rd gear syncro is so bad that is is really affecting the cars drive-ability....the rest of the syncros arent that great either.
So, I am going to pull the whole works, and replace what I need for the syncros in the transmission....but as for the motor....it looks like a good time for an upgrade. My car is a 1970 Giulia 1300 TI 4 door sedan (hydraulic clutch). Do I go 2000cc? 1750cc? which one, and from what donor? Is there a guide somewhere on this board someone can point to to? I am still new to the Alfa world, and ma trying to bone up on all the differences in motors, and what will work with what, and what won't. Any advice would be appreciated!

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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 11-25-2016, 01:22 PM
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Keep with the 1300.
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post #3 of 9 (permalink) Old 11-25-2016, 02:47 PM
With the hydraulic clutch setup you are in the driver's seat (pun intended). I'd go for a 2L with a transmission which would be the cheapest and a huge increase in torque and HP. No modifications necessary ( I don't think). And if you wanted to hot rod it, it's cheaper too.
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post #4 of 9 (permalink) Old 11-26-2016, 05:03 AM
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Personally I'd go with a 2.0L and then drop in a 4.10 LSD from an S3 Spider. Cheaper and easier to maintain, more power, and less frantic revs on the highway. That was what I had in my Super.

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1970, so you have a hydraulic clutch, right? if so, you can easily go with whatever engine you want. As long as you have the right flywheel/clutch, it'll work. I have a 1750 in my Super (mechanical clutch), love it. But 2000s are relatively speaking cheap and plentiful. No probably fitting under the hood of a Giulia.

With a 1750 or 2000, you most likely will need the matching front exhaust downpipes due to taller engine, but that's a minor item.

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Personally I'd go with a 2.0L and then drop in a 4.10 LSD from an S3 Spider. Cheaper and easier to maintain, more power, and less frantic revs on the highway. That was what I had in my Super.

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I have the setup that Kevin mentions in my 1970 1300TI--a 2.0L with the 4.10 rear end. Agree it makes for a great highway cruiser but still has plenty of pep around town. Only minor issue is that the exhaust downpipe does occasionally bump the bottom of the firewall on startup, due to the taller engine. From Andrew's comment, it sounds like there may be a workaround for this. But only happens once in a while, only on startup, and has never bothered me enough to investigate. Good luck.

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No experience with other Alfas or larger engines, but I'll say I am enjoying the hell out of my former 1300 now 1400 Super around Northern California's rolling hills. And driving from Marin to Berkeley on the freeway is smooth and easy and as pleasant as can be.

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One of the nicest, friendliest Alfas I ever drove was a Nuova 1300 Super with Solex carbs, around Corte Madera. Not the fastest, but smooth and responsive, really an enjoyable car to drive.
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I "upgraded" my 1.3 1973 super to a 1.6 and have never regretted it. I did get the engine very cheap though. When it was a 1300 with solex carbs it was a real joy as well - just a bit slower.

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