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giulia_veloce 01-18-2008 11:19 AM

steering wheel identification.
 
Hey guys.

Can anyone identify this steering wheel.
My thoughts= Giulia 4 door 1964 ,1300 ?,with possibly a steering column gearlever.
Thanks

Robert

Andrew 01-18-2008 01:11 PM

First series Giulia TI 1600, beginning in 1962.

Andrew

Andrew 01-18-2008 01:18 PM

Used on both floor- and column-shift cars initially. The three-spoke aluminum wheel like Supers have started coming into use in maybe 1965?
Andrew

sprint750 01-18-2008 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew (Post 474893)
Used on both floor- and column-shift cars initially. The three-spoke aluminum wheel like Supers have started coming into use in maybe 1965?
Andrew

I'm afraid it's not true

The 3 spoke aluminium steering wheel from the super was a custom (but very popular in the era) fitting.

Later original steering wheel on th 'Ti' was 3 spokeand plastic covered, with chrome on the spoke for horn buttons It was fitted on both 1300 and 1600 Ti's and was the original steering wheel of the early GT 1300 Junior coupés.

Attachment 89661
Regards
Sébastien

giulia_veloce 01-18-2008 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by giulia_veloce (Post 474859)
Hey guys.

Can anyone identify this steering wheel.
My thoughts= Giulia 4 door 1964 ,1300 ?,with possibly a steering column gearlever.
Thanks

Robert

I possibly thought the steering wheel was about 1963.
Supers didnt arrive in Australia till late 1963- early 1964.
Did the steering wheel come of a 1300 with a strip style speedo?
Any information appreciated.

Robert

sono veL.O.ce 01-18-2008 06:44 PM

I have the same wheel on my 1964 giulia Ti column shift.

giulia_veloce 01-18-2008 06:58 PM

Hey Sono,

Does the steering wheel on your car have the same dash ?(as above ).

Robert

rogerspeed 01-18-2008 07:50 PM

That steering wheel could be both a 1300 or 1600 105 Sedan. It would be correct with the strip style speedometer pictured.

sono veL.O.ce 01-18-2008 11:57 PM

Same dash, but wrong side of the road!

alfavirusnz 01-19-2008 03:26 PM

That dash is out of a 1600 Ti.- the 1300`s did not get the grab rail you see in front of the glovebox otherwise both had strip dash as shown. The steering wheel was only fitted to the 1600`s, the 1300`s getting a cheaper three spoke black plastic steering wheel. `62-64 column change standard. `64-65 floor change became an option (with bucket as against bench front seat) and through to `66 I think column change was offered as an option. It didn`t matter whether floor or column gearchange that steering wheel came with a Ti 1600. Super 1600`s came with the more sporting steering wheel as standard, again it was the cheaper 1300`s that got the black plastic steering wheel (and slightly more basic interior)

Richard J

`65 Giulia Ti (1600), `69 GT Junior, `74 GTV 2000, `76 Alfetta GTV, `77 Alfetta GTV, `84 GTV6

sprint750 01-19-2008 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by alfavirusnz (Post 475292)
That dash is out of a 1600 Ti.- the 1300`s did not get the grab rail you see in front of the glovebox otherwise both had strip dash as shown. The steering wheel was only fitted to the 1600`s, the 1300`s getting a cheaper three spoke black plastic steering wheel. .....

/...again it was the cheaper 1300`s that got the black plastic steering wheel (and slightly more basic interior)

Richard J

`65 Giulia Ti (1600), `69 GT Junior, `74 GTV 2000, `76 Alfetta GTV, `77 Alfetta GTV, `84 GTV6

Sorry again to have to say that it is not true.
The 1300 were also fitted with the futurisic steering wheel.
It is not a matter of 1300/1600, only model year is involved
Attachment 89758Attachment 89759
Attachment 89760Early 1300, with ribbon type speedometer

Then, still early dashboard for the 1300, but 3 spoke steering wheel ('66), like the 1600
Attachment 89761(At this time, the 1600 was already fitted with new dashboard)

Then 3 spoke and new dashboard for all 1300+1600 ('67)

Attachment 89762

regards
Sébastien

Giulia Bianca 01-20-2008 01:00 AM

Sebastien is right in this, at least for the European market.
The "old " steering wheel came in 3 colors, black as shown, white with black, and black with white

alfavirusnz 01-20-2008 04:05 PM

Yes I`ve just been going through my old brochures, including a German market one, and a book of road tests of Giulias. Got quite a library, and I buy old Alfa brochures & handbooks.- The RHD market was different and I am correct regarding that RHD (Australian version, which at that stage basically the UK market version) in that the wheel is off a 1600 Ti. You are right though Sebastien regarding the LHD markets.
A couple of other things I learnt in going through the brochures was that there was a very basic 1300 Giulia below the 1300 Ti, and there was an all black version of that "futuristic" steering wheel.
One difference I have noticed between Giulia Veloce`s pic and my steering wheel is that his rim is fatter, almost as if it is padded and black vinyl covered whereas mine has a shiny hard black plastic rim. did they change them in detail sometime in the production life. My car according to Alfa Storico was manufactured early 1965 for the UK market.

Richard J

`65 Giulia Ti, `69 GT Junior, `74 GTV 2000, `76 Alfetta GTV, `77 Alfetta GTV, `84 GTV6

Andrew 01-20-2008 05:17 PM

We didn't get all those variants in the US, alas, just 1600 TIs and 1600 Supers. When I said it was from the first series TI, I didn't mean it had to be a 62 itself, only that that's when the series started. I have a 64 column shift TI with this wheel, and a 65 floor shift TI, both Euro market cars brought into the US later.

Andrew

giulia_veloce 01-20-2008 06:05 PM

hey Andrew.
Thanks for the reply and sorting out the steering wheel + dash questions.
Alfa did some different things when they assembled the cars for different countrys.Like putting a steering wheel on the LH side of the car etc.
Remember,im in Australia and we drive the cars from the Rh side,so things look different,if you know what I mean.
One thing I never asked anyone is= how you LH drive drivers put extractors on cars when you have a steering box in the way.
I know it can be done,just more difficult.
Thanks for the responce,keep them comming,

Robert


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