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Is this a Biscione

This is a 1965 Giulia Super 1600 of a friend of mine. All stock except for the radio and additional gauge below the dash. I read that Bisciones were first made in 1969. This Alfa has several details found on the Biscione like the central bonnet latch, additiona trims on the sills and bonnet, etc. but the C Pillar badge is not the green serpent.

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No, it is just a standard early 65 Super, which had rocker spears, hood spear, window gutter/A/C-pillar trim, carpet, whisker side repeaters and a gold Bolino d'Oro badge on the C-pillar. Stainless plates over the courtesy light switches. But is is an early one, ca. <10/65 because the tach does not have red lines and it has orange dash directional repeaters. Bisciones (69-71) had some of these features plus others and minus some, as well as other differences. Search Biscione to find a discussion of them on the ABB.

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No, it is just a standard early 65 Super, which had rocker spears, hood spear, window gutter/A/B-pillar trim, carpet, whisker side repeaters and a gold Bolion d'Oro badge on the c-pillar. Stainless plates over the courtesy light switches. But is is an early one, ca. <10/65 because the tach does not have red lines and it has orange dash directional repeaters. Bisciones (69-71) had some of these features plus others and minus some,m as well as other differences. Search Biscione to find a discussion of them on the ABB.
Thanks. How muh would this car be worth nowadays? I's still in factory condition i.e. original paint, never involved in an accident, absolutely no rust and mecahnically 100% good.

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Hard to tell by a few photos alone and not much description. Front grill looks to be modified? Hubcaps not original and probably not wheels also. Has original bumpers. Engine size? Mechanicals condition?? Interior seats upholstery does not look original. Missing crossover air filter and tube. Looks like some surface rust near c-pillar. If solid with no serious rust, for an early S1, maybe Euro 15-20k. Maybe more if it checks out.
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It has only tiny areas with surface rust like the one on the C-pillar (which is probably the worst one). It further needs a respray. The upholstery is original. Car is absolutely solid, no rattles, mechanically it's in 100% condition. Never used in the rain, only for Sunday drives. The last 15 years it's been only used for shooting films (Munich of Steven Spielberg & By the Sea of Brad Pitt) and in 2009 it took part in the annual Valletta Grand Prix, watch this video at 1:38 minutes from the start:
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We need to look into the grille, it might have ben painted by a PO (only had 3 in its life).

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There is a lot of knowledge about these cars in NL and BE. Many here on the AlfaBB.
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Smoke from exhaust doesn't look too good......
Maybe 117,000 kms by the wear on seats etc.

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The front grill looks correct, the full face chrome grill with a split heart, hard to tell from the photo, but it looks like either some upper and lower grill bars have been painted black or removed. Again, hard to tell from the pic. These grills are very hard to find and the split hearts even harder. It looks like the car at least needs a light rehab, possibly some paint? I have a very pristine early 65 in white/blue (see pics in signature).
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It seems that the car is in good condition. After seeing the photos I think it would cost till Euro 15-20k. A few days ago I have seen the similar model of car in reddish orange color being transported somewhere in the open car transport trailer of shipping company. I must say that whoever is the owner of the car had maintained that car in a very good way.
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