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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 08-24-2017, 11:41 AM Thread Starter
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Front bumper 141.362.714

Hello,

I bought several parts for my F12. The parts contain a NOS front bumper with part nummer 141.362.714 (in excellent condition).

I know that part number 141.362.700 is the front bumper of the Autotutto.

Does anyone has a part list with the 141.362.714 so that I'll can figure out for which type of Alfa this bumper is made?

There is more to come (there are more unknown parts by me ......).

Thanks in advance. Regards Frans

The Netherlands: Current: 33 1.7QV 1988/F12 1300 1972. Past: 33 1.7QV/146/147/156/Spider 2000/GT 1300 Junior
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These numbers don't look like Alfa parts numbers. Can you post a picture of where you found them?

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I am not able to put links or photo's (post count 10 or greater). The number 141.362,700 is from my Catalogo delle parti di ricambio Romeo autotutto ....

So it is the correct number. At the bumper is also attached an original Alfa Romeo card en there is an Alfa logo at the bumper.

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On the bumper there is a "Alfa Romeo Brunsig Brevett. " description so it seems to be an original Alfa part.

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I'll put some pictures here.

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When I've counted the minimum of 10 posts ........

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OK, this makes more sense now: Alfa's 9-digit numbering notation in the 1950s (introduced with the 1900 series, I believe) was in the format of aaaa.bbbbb, of which the first 4 digits often were the product (or supplier) group. In some parts catalogs, the same numbers were shown in aaaa.bb.ccc notation, and in others (as in your case) without delimiting periods. In rare cases, there can be a slash "/" with an additional digit added, indicating a part variation in a 10-digit format. In 1958, Alfa introduced a 12 digit numbering system with the 101 Giulietta and 102 (2000) series of cars, with a numbering scheme of aaa.bb.cc.ddd.ee/ff where the first 3 digits usually was the vehicle series the part was introduced with and some parts received 2 more digits after a slash (making it a 14-digit number) when evolutionary variants were introduced.

The writing on your tag seems to indicate 1413.62714 or 1413.52714 (the crease makes it difficult to see if the number is a 5 or a 6), which would date the part to the 1950s.

The 1900 series used one 1413.38 number (grille heart) a few 1413.80 numbers (dome light, flasher unit, etc -- all of them being Carello components), and two 1413.90 numbers (lens gaskets for lights). The Giulietta series used about half a dozen of 1413.80 numbers (for internal and external lighting and flasher unit) and one 1413.90.145 number (a gasket for a side indicator lens) -- again, all of them seeming to be Carello components. The cross-reference section of the 102 parts catalog lists no 1413 components, so this model series can be ruled out.

So, unfortunately, due to limited exposure, I think there will be little help from people knowing passenger cars. I would suggest you contact Tony Stevens at AlfaStop in the UK, who knows Romeo vans, Mille trucks and Romeo 2 ambulances quite well and may be able to look up the part for you.

It would be interesting to learn what the deal with the "Brunsig" patent is.

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Thanx. I'll ask Tony.

When I look at the pictures it seems to be a bumper for the Romeo:

The Romeo Listing

I'll let You know the final result.

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Thanx. I'll ask Tony.

When I look at the pictures it seems to be a bumper for the Romeo:

The Romeo Listing

I'll let You know the final result.
Hi, it does indeed look like a Romeo bumper. My Romeo furgone has one in need of restoration attention. If you are perhaps interested in selling this item, please send me a message & we can talk further.
Best regards,
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Hi Frans and all,
I don't know if information about alfa part 1413.62714 is still needed.
In my Romeo catalogo ( nr 691 from 9/1959) this number fits the front bumper for the Romeo starting from chassis nr : 1413.06151
Hope this can help someone any further.
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