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I love talking with Larry Sr ! My favorite curmudgeon. Many spirited discussions, and I had a great visit there once, when I was on the road and needed help.
I too am grumpy a lot of the time, but if people are respectful and patient, I will work with them.
For a Long time, I wouldn't sell parts, because of people giving me grief over prices, like the NOS GTV6 door handle with key, I wanted $100, and I got slammed on the BB for gouging and holding customers hostage to my "greed". And BB posts like"Who do I think I am, trying to get $125 for a NOS GTV6 front air dam still in the bag.
APE is a valuable resource, because many things are not available new anywhere, and you are lucky to find them at all.
AND, if you treat Sr. with respect, he is a hoot to talk to !!
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It is relevant because it represents a pattern of grumpy old Alfa experts. I could have also mentioned Al Cosentino or Fred DiMatteo (RTFM). Snowflakes beware!
As a long time member of Alfa Owners of New England, I had the great pleasure of getting to know Fred DiMatteo very well, as a matter of fact his whole family. I could see how Fred might come across as crotchety, but if you got to know him, he was a prince. When I talk to others about Fred, I always mention his energy, he was unstoppable. His Alfa trips to Italy, were amazing, as if he was given the golden key to unlock excursions to Autodelta, Pininfarina, Balocco and more. Trips to ARI in NJ were a blast. I miss him, but enjoyed looking back. Fran
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The Larry's provide invaluable service to the Alfa community, especially tight wads like me. Like many things Alfa there is a learning curve and once you get there it can be kind of a special place. I agree with the beer algorithm.
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As a long time member of Alfa Owners of New England, I had the great pleasure of getting to know Fred DiMatteo very well, as a matter of fact his whole family. I could see how Fred might come across as crotchety, but if you got to know him, he was a prince. When I talk to others about Fred, I always mention his energy, he was unstoppable. His Alfa trips to Italy, were amazing, as if he was given the golden key to unlock excursions to Autodelta, Pininfarina, Balocco and more. Trips to ARI in NJ were a blast. I miss him, but enjoyed looking back. Fran
Fran, it's good to see your name on the BB.

I spent 3 years in exile in Boston from 1979-1982, and it was then that I joined AONE and met Fred, Anna, and Peter. They were great friends to my wife and me, and also to our new-born daughter, also named Anna.

To call Fred unstoppable is an understatement - he was an unending source of Alfa energy, and always had time to field a question, give a hand, or just sit back and enjoy Alfa friends.

I recall that when we were pitching the 1989 National Convention that was a cooperative event between Connecticut and New England, we gave a slide presentation.

The last slide was a parody of a popular Ferrari commercial (Why do we build Ferraris like this? Because Il Commendatore wants it that way!), and instead of Enzo next to a Ferrari, we had Fred next to an Alfa. The narrative was, "Why should Connecticut and New England host the 1989 Convention? Because Fred DiMatteo wants it that way!"

As I tinker with my latest Alfa, I often think of Fred as I seem to re-invent the wheel that he long ago knew all about.

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I believe NorCal has a right to this review without this amount of harassment. He is reporting his experience. I have had 4 dealings with APE and yup, they range from downright rude and insulting to "salt of the earth" friendliness.

I really dont think anyone is expecting a Walmart type customer experience. However a little humanity never hurt anyone. I am 30 mins from APE but gave trying to deal with them years ago.

Larry had the right to run his biz as he wants (this post aint gonna change anything) but maybe if Alfa parts hunters where warned ahead of time they would understand or "tolerate" the experience.

If I choose to call APE I mentally prepare myself for a interesting encounter (positive and negative)

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Having "Avoid" in the thread title is like a newspaper printing a false story on page one and a correction on page 6 the next day.
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I`ve dealt with Larry regularly for years. He`s great to deal with.

If you are a sensitive little flower, avoid me as well..........

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I've known Larrys Sr and Jr for 30 years. Sr is in particular a character, and you have to take him as he is. It's his business, take it or leave it.

In my extensive experience, I've had fair and decent dealings with both of them across the board. They are a business, have to make money, set prices accordingly; they're not a swap meet or hobby. So sometimes their prices might seem more than you'd expect, but (1) they pay rent on two locations, (2) they have to make money for it to make sense, and (3) where else are you going to find this stuff.

Larry Jr in large part keeps the East Bay and SF Alfa scene going with trans, diffs, Spica stuff, engine parts, you name it. He makes nearly weekly deliveries to the Berkeley businesses and hobbyists. I couldn't have had all the Alfas I've had without them. So they get my vote, 100%.

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Having "Avoid" in the thread title is like a newspaper printing a false story on page one and a correction on page 6 the next day.
I agree with the above comment. How about if we edit the thread title to something less inflammatory? "Interaction with" instead of "Avoid"?
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The Alfa community is loaded with quirky people and vendors. I'd wager that is the case with a lot of non-mainstream hobbies. I guess I've grown used to it over the years and learned to deal with it. The only vendor I'd ever apply an "avoid at all costs" label to was Ed, from Caribou.

I've been fortunate to have nothing but good interactions with the people at APE, including both Larrys. Maybe it's because I had a little heads up to their business model before I ever dealt with them, or maybe it's just because I'm so charming. Who knows. But they do seem to be a vendor that fills a valuable void in our community, so I'd suggest it's in your best interests to figure out how to interact with them.

They hosted the most recent swap meet, and presumably they'll be hosting more. That's a very good venue to attend and get to know them (and others) in person.

A couple of tips I'd recommend for dealing with APE:

1) Recognize that they're a business, but that they don't have state of the art inventory control, etc. They're not Amazon.
2) They're not well set up to handle orders for individual nuts and bolts.
3) If you need to order something small, best to try to come up with a number of items you might need. That way they're not spending time to find and ship you that one small nut or bolt.
4) Even better if you can bundle up that small part with something more significant.
5) Don't ever try to 'bargain' with them.
6) If you do need to order that one small part, then I'd try to be a little humble and understanding with them up front. It might also be the kind of thing that's best done via email with them, so they can process it during their down time, and not as an interrupt.

Yes, I know you shouldn't have to jump through hoops to spend money with a vendor. But we are in a fringe community. Hopefully you can find a way to make things work.

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I believe NorCal has a right to this review without this amount of harassment. He is reporting his experience.
NorCal is not being harassed. He posted his interpretation of a shared experience. Based on that interpretation instructed us to "Avoid" APE. The forum, like it or not, is rw-rw-rw-. Post a strong opinion and others will post theirs. That's exactly how it's supposed to work.

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post #58 of 67 (permalink) Old 08-30-2017, 01:35 PM
Interesting observation: There are currently 57 "Likes" which would suggest that many people agree that Larry should be avoided. However, of those likes 49 are in support of Larry. If it were my business I'd be freaking out. But one thing's for sure: Larry couldn't give a rat's behind what I, NorCal, or any of the rest of the peanut thinks or says...
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Count me as a fan of APE as well. I find Larry Sr. very entertaining to talk to, and have had nothing but pleasant interactions both over the phone and in person.

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A lot of those supporting Larry in this thread mention "pleasant interactions". I for the most had the same. But I stopped buying from APE when Larry sold me a rusted-out wiper motor for $100 plus shipping as "ready to install". It wasn't in so many ways. And after provided all the details and documentation he requested the asswipe still refused to even discuss either a refund or an exchange.

I have had no trouble finding all the parts I need other wrecking yards.
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