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post #91 of 100 (permalink) Old 01-28-2010, 09:58 AM
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Do you mean....following the rules?
If i remember, this wasn't the first time a pilot finished the race without the co-pilot.
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Mille Miglia rules

The Mille Miglia rules changed in 1954. Before that time, it was required to have two "drivers" even if only one of them drove. From 1954 to 1957 it was not necessary to have a co-driver. Many of the larger cars continued to carry do-drivers/mechanics as the performance potential of the car was not diminished drastically. In the smaller cars, one could not really hope to have a good finish if one carried the weight of a passenger. The question of whether Bonacina had a co-driver in 1955 is not really important. He is not listed as having had a co-driver in the sources I've seen but I've found many errors in all of the accounts of these races. It is merely a detail that might be answered definitively by someone who really knows ... such as Mario Bonacina himself? Or his co-driver ... if there was one.

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Does anyone know which of the 205s participated in the 1st Coppa "Comandante Giovanni Braccini" at Saline di Volterra in September 1953 ? I have a photo showing a 205 parked near my car, but I can't make out the door lines to distinguish which 205 it might be.
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hi don, can you pls post the scanned picture?

It is most likely 101 or 103 as 102 was supposed to have been sold by then into Austria.. but who knows

There are other distinguishing features between the cars, such as door lines (will not help in this one) location of bumper (if they are on the cars) the depth of the grill and number of ribs, the chrome (or non) treatment of the rear quarter window, shape of the rear valance etc...

Looking fwd to seeing the picture

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Hi Elad,

Because I received the photo through research on my car I'm not sure who has the copyright, so I don't think it would be appropriate for me to post it online. But since it might be your car in the picture, I see nothing wrong with directly sending you a copy via e-mail if you would PM an address to me. The researcher has access to at least some of the entry forms for the event.

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A must for me, and substantially less money than the silver version hand-made done by History Car 43/Lilliput in Italy..
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Abarth 205 numbers 101 and 103

Thanks to some ongoing research being done by Corrado Bellabarba (apparently with some information supplied by Dr. Sergio Lugo) there is now some good material coming to light on the Italian paper-trail ownership history of these two cars. Both seemed to have moved around a fair bit in short periods of time.

It would not be correct for me to share all at this point but here is a teaser:

Chassis 101 went to Rome, then to near Como, back to Rome and on to Lucca before it was registered as sold 13 November 1953 to the already well-described owner in California, Herbert Hadley Johnson, who is named in the final document along with address and all. At one point (early in the paper trail) the builder & model of the car was recorded as "Fiat 1100" ... but this was changed in later documents.

Chassis 103 went to Brescia in 1950, then to Rome, to Florence, to Arezzo briefly and back to Florence. The final record is impossible to read in the copy that was supplied but it does imply where we might look for more. Research from this point may become a bit difficult and/or costly? A kind of "shotgun" research could be done by researching blocks of license plates issued during a certain time period until the "hit" is made. Anybody want to finance this kind of research?

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almost done - 103

Getting ready for Amelia next weekend - almost done:
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Belatedly stumbled upon this thread more than a month after spending 33 hours travelling to get to Amelia Island - a last minute thing dovetailing with a family holiday on the West Coast!

To me this car and the Ferrari Ghia were the highlights of the show!!

Congratulations on what is a stunningly beautiful machine!

Having driven a 202 Cisitalia, I have a fair understanding of what an epic machine this is, made even more so by its impossibly beautiful lines...

I hope you don't mind me posting a couple of snaps of it on the lawn last month!

Best John.
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