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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 01-28-2008, 11:27 AM Thread Starter
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I have for a long time wondered about the Volvo 2000 GTZ and the Volvo 3000 GTZ by Zagato. Were two different cars actually built, or just one body later upgraded with larger engine? The 2000 GTZ is listed as constructed in 1969 and the 3000 GTZ in 1970. The Turin show picture was shown as 3000 GTZ at the old Zagato Milano site. (Could anone please tell the year). It is another slighly different picture from the same Turin show in "le Zagato. Fulvia Sport . Junior Z" by M. Marchiano. I have also found the following pictures labelled both as 2000 GTZ or 3000 GTZ at different sites at the internet but I guess the blue ones are 3000 GTZ and the b/w shows the 2000 GTZ ?
I know of a picture of the 3000GTZ being restored in the Swedish magazine "Classic Motor - Signalhornet" sometime in 1997-1998, and I actually went to ALUCars outside Finspång and saw the remains shortly after. Stupid as I was (am) I did not bring my camera...
It has been stated that 2000 GTZ was based on a Volvo 142 and I presume the 3000 GTZ engine is from a 164? On the other hand I have seen a German magazine "Oldtimer markt" 7/1986 supposedly showing a Volvo 1800 TCZ ???
If anyone knows more about Volvos by Zagato, please share your info.
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intresting looking but it it just me or does the dop and window line look like that of a chevy vega/monza

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I really like both those cars. Too bad Volvo didn't continue to work with Zagato. Could have been some neat Zagato 240 Turbo cars built in the '80s.
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I might have some info, for sure some pics in my Zagato books. They are interesting creatures.

I always wonder what happened to a lot of the one-offs they did. The red Fulvia convertible, the Flavia 2000 (Super Sport), the Fiat 127, the Panoramica stuff from the 40's, etc.

I know one of the white Lambo's 3500 survived and supposingly one of the Fiat 850 prototypes (out of five).

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its sad but "most" prototypes from every company out there..either ends up in deep storage and forgotten or scraped..its just a fact of life

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intresting looking but it it just me or does the dop and window line look like that of a chevy vega/monza
I thought the entire glasshouse looked like it has been borrowed from a 116 GTV...
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I can answer regarding the Flavia Supersport, one of the 2 prototypes survises today. It is France (I think) currently painted dark blue, a very nice design with elements of the Junior Z (IMO) The 850 survivor is currently in Europe needing restoration. As Fredrik surmises there were indeed 2 Zagato collaborations with Volvo.
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I guess I was wrong and the blue/orange car is the 2000 and the other car is the 3000.
Some more info on this site:
http://www.v1800reg.org/pages/V%201800%20HIST.doc
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Has the 850 found a new owner? It was offered to me some time ago for not that much of money (Or maybe a lot considering it needs absolutely everything). I would love to see that restored.

Still have the pics of it and recall that it was in Sweden (or Norway)?

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Fiat 850 Zagato - was in Denmark, I think.
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Some more pictures of the 2000 and 3000 GTZ
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I think the 2000 is stunning - Lots of Junior Z in it. The 3000, not so sure. Looks a bit like a Jamara.

Where are these cars now? Do they still exist?

In the article I understood that Zagato build 50 2000s for the Italian market? I am sure I did not read this correctly ...

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Well, that writer's skills in English seems a little limited - like mine. Maybe I should try to contact him and find out what he really meant?

The owner of the body shop working on the 3000 in the late 90´s said a well known Swedish Volvo collector owned it (but I do not know anything about Volvo collectors.).
Maybe I should ask the body shop owner if he did finish the car?
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i realy like the 2000 from the bottom of the glass down....just cant stand the roof line or window shapes on it....they just dont work well with the rest of the car imo

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I think the 2000 is stunning - Lots of Junior Z in it. The 3000, not so sure. Looks a bit like a Jamara.
I agree - the 2000 should have been put into production. I think you meant to type 'Jarama' as in Lamborghini, another design I actually like quite a bit (though it does not photograph well - it should be seen in person to appreciate it's form). The 3000 looks like a Korean interpretation of it, not Zagato's best work!

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