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post #436 of 451 (permalink) Old 02-23-2019, 10:00 PM
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Ok,must have taken of hammering .... even the springs are devastated ...
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I don't mess with old valve springs ever. They are always replaced (at least after the first engine I built). 389 Pontiac. I was 19 and built the engine for my 66 Bonneville. Figured that the springs look good - why spend the money? Fresh engine in the car and then drove 800 miles from York Pennsylvania to Indianapolis for a big hotrod show. Once we got there we figured we needed to "adjust the valves" (hydraulic lifters, so we obviously had no idea). Anyway, we pull the cover and then don't know what to do next. Push the car across the fairgrounds and ask the tech group about adjusting them. They reply " Probably should replace the broken valve spring first".

Fortunate to find a local speed shop with a new set of springs. Tow the car over and then replaced the broken spring in the parking lot with a shoe string through the spark plug hole to hold up the valve. Lots of learning. Most importantly - always use new valve springs!

Had $5000 in that car and sold it for $2500. Best tuition I ever paid!

Love the pictures of the fresh engine - I can almost smell it. Those plug threads look really bad - inserts fix it right up.
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Hi Hubert, about pumped engines look what I saw on the internet.
3036 cc!
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Giovanni,

that´s a statement!

Provided they did not change the stroke, the bore is about 89 mm. With a cast iron liner this layout is for racing only, because it will not last too long.


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the best compression ratio 1:12?
There is a lot of difference between the cylinders, it must be dead ....
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the best compression ratio 1:12?
There is a lot of difference between the cylinders, it must be dead ....
Amen.

I dont think they mean compression ratio, but they did a compression test and this is somehow the results. Compression ratio is set by engine design (stroke and combustion chamber)
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Restoration of the locks










Today the restored locks arrived. Brilliant work executed by AlfaBB member Rafano from Vienna.

The two main keys are NOS blanks I had in stock. Rafano restored the door lock, trunk, gas and glove box locks and synchronized the “key code”. He also restored the old ignition switch. The parts are real masterpieces. You can feel the precision when turning the key.

The door handles are old stock as well, the driver´s side had been equipped with a wrong lock (possibly Alfa) and keys.

Fantastic work!

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Weird carburetor setup

There is an exciting story behind this double 3B carb setup, which belongs to a friend. But the question is, is it worth buying and restoring?













The machining of the Pertinax block appers to be professionally made although the design is of "form follows function" department. The chain drive and the (not shown) linkage of the starters etc. look well made as well. it seems as if the carbs have been modified from 1 acceleration pump plus 1 enrichment pump to 2 acceleration pumps (like Porsche 911?)

A 3C inlet manifold has been used. The trumpets and the airfilter box have been lowered in order to fit the unit under the hood.

Has anyone seen this before?


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That's... rather interesting. I'm sure the story is too. Well made, but why not just source a 3C set, as there's already the manifold? Pertinax? Is that phenolic?

On a related (?) note, have you ever seen the 3B carb set up for a zwei-tack SAAB? Caught my attention at one point, as I probably went through a dozen strokers. Used to have a picture somewhere.
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That's... rather interesting. I'm sure the story is too. Well made, but why not just source a 3C set, as there's already the manifold? Pertinax? Is that phenolic?

On a related (?) note, have you ever seen the 3B carb set up for a zwei-tack SAAB? Caught my attention at one point, as I probably went through a dozen strokers. Used to have a picture somewhere.
Well, that exactly is the question. If we go back in time; I have a 3c engine (or 3C manifold only) and want to do something good to the aeration. Why not get a set of Webers but do this?

No, Saab 2 strokes with a solex 3 barrel have not crossed my way. There is literally now contact between me and 2 stroke, even my lawn mower is 4 stroke.

While I am writing this! There had been a 2 stroke in my life. I was working in sales for a valve manufacturer and we sold inlet valve stems for MAN B&W two stroke. The valve had a hight of 1,8 m. Cyinder bore was up to 95 cm, power up to approx. 80.000 hp. When I remember correctly one cylinder made about 7.000 hp. If the customer needed more power he just added another cylinder!

Pertinax seems to be a brand name. Seems to be fibre reinforced phenolic or so. Used for circuit board mainly.


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i thought of my old 911 as soon as i saw those carburettors. it had triple choke webers on it and i loved them.
the phenolic blocks don't seem like a bad idea, but i would think aluminum might be better. i've only used the phenolic as heat protection to prevent boiling the fuel.
you can't really polish the inlets of those can you?

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Very charming and curious

"Has anyone seen this before?"
If you use Facebook there is a fairly active "Lancia Flavia & Flaminia" group, you Can try on it.
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Nope. No way, no how. (expletive deleted) Zuck.
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Nope. No way, no how. (expletive deleted) Zuck.
My thoughts on Facebook too
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Thats kind of interesting. Assume it was made for someone with a 3C manifold not wanting to pay for three Webers.... the 3B Solexes were probably cheaper. Is there any problem with clearance under the hood? It would seem worth keeping and doing if only for its uniqueness.... ?
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