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Henry,

The blu Lancia formulation changed somewhat over the years--sometimes a little lighter, sometimes a little darker. Your middle photo above (license AE 12 75) appears to be blu Lancia (and probably on the lighter end of the scale).

IMHO, blu Lancia is a great color for the car. But other than something bright and garish, like rosso corsa or bright yellow, it's hard to imagine a truly bad color for the lines of the car.

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Henry,

I would strongly recommend that you correspond with "PG1964" (Paolo), who is the greatest connoisseur of Lancia I've ever encountered. I don't think he would mind my posting his nice photo of a blue Touring convertible.

If you are willing to diverge from the very limited Flaminia palette, BASF Diamont M4559A is a terrific dark blue used by the fellow who purchased my old Ferrari 330 GT (Another 330GT 2+2 returned from limbo - FerrariChat.com). After much consideration it's likely that another friend will use this color on his Flaminia Touring.

IMHO I think you would regret a non-metallic dark grey. Metallic colors really seem to work on Flaminias and are broadly correct. Non-metallic grey is more of a '40s and early '50s Italian color, indeed it was original to my '49 Maserati. Despite that, there is complete consensus among those involved with my car that going back to this would be a mistake.

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Can someone post a picture of a Bleu Lancia car please. I'm starting to think of possible colors for my Flaminia, which has a beige/cognac interior, and even though the non metallic dark grey is certainly high up the list, I'd like to explore other options.

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Thanks. That blue convertible looks great

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Blu Lancia.

Henry, i post here two photos. I know the owners of these cars, they used the Lechler color, but as you see it's difficult to match very well a color from a photo, especially for the blue because it changes even under the natural light. I suggest you to use the original paint (Blu Lancia, Lechler 1332, Max meyer 12069) and not the color machine (tintometro).
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I want a Flaminia Convertible - So gorgeous!

Thanks for the pics.

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My take on these cars is that, like Alfa, Lancia was very particular (and invariably correct) about paint colors. I think tossing the factory paint catalogue away and coming up with one's own color is a mistake---commonly made, but still a mistake. There is a reason "Lancia Blue" is called that: it's a color that looks good on virtually every Lancia I've ever seen.

At some point in it's life some tastless fool painted my car "philistine red" when its original color (still on the dash) was a subtle, tasteful, non-metallic graphic gray. Every time I look at the car I have to wonder what was in that guy's mind to do that to such a car? I've decided he was some ignorant newbie who bought it when Flaminias, even Zagatos, were just cheap cars and wanted a little "my first red sports car" flash. The gray w/minimalist red interior was the perfect combination for the car. But, even if you'd told him, he probably wouldn't have listened. IMHO changing the color of wonderful old cars to red has gone past the gold-chain set and and is now the practice of cultural bottom-feeders.

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Paolo thank you very much, that color is just magnificent and I believe my mind is made up. Now the one thing I need is an excellent body man since that color will not fogive any imperfection on the Touring alluminium body.

You mention the original paint by Lechler and Max Meyer. Can these actually be purchased, or is there a formula that goes with the code?

Where can I purchase the paint or get the codes? Where I am (Mexico) there are a lot of distributors for paint but I don't think I can purchase Lechler or Max Meyer

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Completely agree with Jim's assessment about sticking with the original Lancia palette.

I don't know about Mexico, but Lechler and Max Meyer seem to be virtually unobtainable in the US. I don't have the Glasurit codes from the mid-'60s, but the 1971 blu Lancia Glasurit code is LAN 216.

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Paolo thank you very much, that color is just magnificent and I believe my mind is made up. Now the one thing I need is an excellent body man since that color will not fogive any imperfection on the Touring alluminium body.

You mention the original paint by Lechler and Max Meyer. Can these actually be purchased, or is there a formula that goes with the code?

Where can I purchase the paint or get the codes? Where I am (Mexico) there are a lot of distributors for paint but I don't think I can purchase Lechler or Max Meyer

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It is a challenge to convert Lechler and Max Meyer codes to paints that are more readily available in North America, but you can get the Glasurit codes for your car at Glasurit Classic Car Colors. I imagine that Glasurit is sold in Mexico, and it should be possible to convert a Glasurit code into the equivalent for PPG, Dupont, etc.

Your mind is made up on Blu Lancia ?

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Oh guys, c'mon! A Flaminia would look awesome in Fly Yellow! Especially a PF coupe. Donald, consider a color change!

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Henry,

It is a challenge to convert Lechler and Max Meyer codes to paints that are more readily available in North America, but you can get the Glasurit codes for your car at Glasurit Classic Car Colors. I imagine that Glasurit is sold in Mexico, and it should be possible to convert a Glasurit code into the equivalent for PPG, Dupont, etc.

Your mind is made up on Blu Lancia ?

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Thank you Don, I can probably get Glasurit or at worse I can bring it from the US.

My mind is made up for now, but I'm sure once the car is stripped and the point of no return approaches I'll revisit the decision. As I said before, the only problem with a dark color is that you need a near perfect surface< if I feel once the car is stripped that that might not be accomplished, I will search for a lighter color.

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Henry, the Glasurit code for the Flaminia is 12069-Blu Lancia.

We know PPG was the main supplier of Pininfarina, you can ask here:
https://www.quickbase.com/up/beijf2z...lRioMX-NA.html
In Europe PPG has an on-line free service for the color formulations:
https://buyat.ppg.com/colorweb/ppgeur/

I remember a retired Lancia worker (in the '60) told me a secret : the beauty and the profundity of the black color on the Aurelias were 6 coats of paint!

P.S. The Lechler/Maxmeyer codes i gave you are for vintage colors. In Italy they sell a special series in cans for the vintage cars.

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Oh guys, c'mon! A Flaminia would look awesome in Fly Yellow! Especially a PF coupe. Donald, consider a color change!
That would not be a color change, it would be a taste removal... Unless of course I also re-trim the interior in black with yellow piping.

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That would not be a color change, it would be a taste removal... Unless of course I also re-trim the interior in black with yellow piping.
in which case it would be a frontal lobe removal...

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Well, it's done...

Only two years later! Here are a few very fuzzy shots of the finished (almost) car a few days before being picked up today for the trip down to the Amelia Island Concours and one clearer one taken a few days prior.

If any of you plan to be there, look for the car (and me) on the field on Sunday, March 11th...

The colors ended up as Grigio Flemington Metallizzato e Nero, with Avorio wheels. I think it's pretty sharp- but much more formal-looking than the original Argento.
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