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On May 2 Mount Chaiten in Chile blew up. The initial eruption lifted debris to around 10 miles, which is enough to induce some cooling in the Southern Hemisphere.

The latest blast sent pulverized rock and probably a lot of sulfer 20 km up. If a blast drives stuff 20 miles up, it will provide cooling as far North as the tropics.

It isn't over yet, and those with curiosity may want to read about H. H. Lamb, whose original work on the Volcanic Dust Veil in 1966 has been sound.

The benchmark number on global cooling is an eruption big enough to send a cubic mile of aerosols about 20 + miles up.

Curiosity on this one may be rewarded by reading about Mount Tambora in Indonesia in 1815.

In the summer of 1816 farmers in New York state had their drops frosted --even in July. History has referred it as the "Year without a summer".

It will be interesting to see how the propaganda mongers of contrived theories about anthropogenic warming handle this one.

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You guys are a laugh a minute!!
For someone who wasn't going to read this thread or participate in it...you appear to be, at minimum, mildly entertained.

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It looks as if the Karma of Geophysics is beginning to overwhelm the Dogma of Global Warming Religions.

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For someone who wasn't going to read this thread or participate in it...you appear to be, at minimum, mildly entertained.
Now, THAT's funny! It figures you'd have to say something like that! You're as funny as these guys!!! No, wait...even funnier!!!

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It looks as if the Karma of Geophysics is beginning to overwhelm the Dogma of Global Warming Religions.
GEOPHYSICS?!?!?! Now, THAT's a good one!!!!

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Well, I might have used the Karma of Orbital Mechanics--but some might miss the connection to climate fluctuations.

My cartoonist friend is drawing up one now with the line.

I'll try to post it tomorrow.

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Climate change: When I lived in Michigan, it was really cold around January. But then CLIMATE CHANGE struck! By July it was pretty darn hot!!!!! Whew! Then IT happened again. More climate change: it got cold again. That's why I live in Calofornia where we only have a little climate change.

Green burial sounds like a good idea. Why not? Talk about back to the land!

Seriously, old cemetarys are charming in their way, but the practice is hardly sustainable. Eventually the whole planet is covered in crypts. See, I get the concept of sustainability. But, like so many other good concepts, it is routinely misapplied. Fortunately, the routine of missapplying good concepts is not sustainable.

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Thanks,

I started a new thread to avoid confusion over global warning.

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Now, THAT's funny! It figures you'd have to say something like that! You're as funny as these guys!!! No, wait...even funnier!!!
So glad I can offer you some humor since I have nothing better to do with my time than keep track of who's reading what thread. Kind of like you being retired, mine just has a little different twist to the definition and ties directly to global warming as it applies to homes and running air-conditioning to keep it under control.

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non sequitur?
"Non sequitur (IPA: /nɒnˈsɛkwɪtər/) is Latin for "it does not follow," third person singular of the present indicative active of the deponent verb sequor. The term is most often used in English as a noun) in reference to:

Non sequitur (logic), a logical fallacy
Non sequitur (humor), a comment that has no relation to the preceding comment or to an ongoing discussion or topic.

Its use may also be inadvertent, as in the case of a (poor) rebuttal that does not address the original claims.

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Non Sequitur (comic strip), a comic strip by Wiley Miller
"Non Sequitur" (Voyager episode), episode of Star Trek: Voyager

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GEOPHYSICS?!?!?! Now, THAT's a good one!!!!
Haven't yet done the new cartoon, but the last one was on Al Gore and his "I have a nightmare" speech.

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On May 2 Mount Chaiten in Chile blew up. The initial eruption lifted debris to around 10 miles, which is enough to induce some cooling in the Southern Hemisphere.

The latest blast sent pulverized rock and probably a lot of sulfer 20 km up. If a blast drives stuff 20 miles up, it will provide cooling as far North as the tropics.

It isn't over yet, and those with curiosity may want to read about H. H. Lamb, whose original work on the Volcanic Dust Veil in 1966 has been sound.

The benchmark number on global cooling is an eruption big enough to send a cubic mile of aerosols about 20 + miles up.

Curiosity on this one may be rewarded by reading about Mount Tambora in Indonesia in 1815.

In the summer of 1816 farmers in New York state had their drops frosted --even in July. History has referred it as the "Year without a summer".

It will be interesting to see how the propaganda mongers of contrived theories about anthropogenic warming handle this one.
What are you attempting to prove with this? Particulate matter causes cooling, greenhouse gases cause warming. One of the reasons for a sudden spike in warming is due to tighter particulate emission restrictions, causing cleaner air, without limiting greenhouse gases.

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"Non Sequitur" (Voyager episode), episode of Star Trek: Voyager
Not to mention the original Trek series episode 'The Changling'.

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What are you attempting to prove with this? Particulate matter causes cooling, greenhouse gases cause warming. One of the reasons for a sudden spike in warming is due to tighter particulate emission restrictions, causing cleaner air, without limiting greenhouse gases.
Doesn't everyone know that part of the warming has been a reduction of volcanic activety and since the end of 2007 there has been an increase. Initially in Kamchatka, but now there is an interesting event in South America that is worth following.

Some of these posts will make more sense if you understand that my efforts should be considered as a classroom in the geophysics of climate change.

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Doesn't everyone know...Some of these posts will make more sense if you understand that my efforts should be considered as a classroom in the geophysics of climate change.
Hahahahahahahaha! Now you're a Doctor of Geophysics!?!?!?

Man, this just keeps getting better and better!

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