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"1. Just because they don't, I won't attitude"

But we are doing many things and have been for many years ...
Great to read. My post was in response to the, have you seen China and India comment, and how apparently they won't do anything, so we shouldn't by another poster.

A common theme in many areas, not just climate.

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Global warming is not caused by ANY human activity....everything else is ********...

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Great Lakes Ice Cover:
As of March 9:
Now: 80.0%---2018: 28.7%---2017: 6.2%.
On Feb 14:
66.1%----42.2%---8.0%.
As the song goes--"Spring Will Be A Little Late This Year"
Despite what "Warmers" are saying this is caused by low temperature.
At 32 degrees or lower water still turns from a liquid to a solid form.

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Here is a link to an excellent and succinct explanation of CO2 and earth temperatures by Scott Steward on Quora. James Matkin on Quora is also a prolific denier and posts more extensive comments.

https://www.quora.com/Should-the-soc...change-or-both

I am a student of C.S. Lewis, the great British professor and writer. I was recently re-reading "The Abolition of Man" and the following passage on Man's conquest over Nature caught my attention.

"From this point of view, what we call Man's power of Nature turns out to be a power exercised by some men over other men with Nature as its instrument." C.S. Lewis was and remains prescient in so many areas. The book, "The Abolition of Man" was written in 1947, yet speaks directly to what we see playing out today with the United Nations attempting to implement one world government and the destruction of capitalism by using Nature as the instrument. There is nothing new under the sun.
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Here is a link to an excellent and succinct explanation of CO2 and earth temperatures by Scott Steward on Quora. James Matkin on Quora is also a prolific denier and posts more extensive comments.

https://www.quora.com/Should-the-soc...change-or-both

I am a student of C.S. Lewis, the great British professor and writer. I was recently re-reading "The Abolition of Man" and the following passage on Man's conquest over Nature caught my attention.

"From this point of view, what we call Man's power of Nature turns out to be a power exercised by some men over other men with Nature as its instrument." C.S. Lewis was and remains prescient in so many areas. The book, "The Abolition of Man" was written in 1947, yet speaks directly to what we see playing out today with the United Nations attempting to implement one world government and the destruction of capitalism by using Nature as the instrument. There is nothing new under the sun.
C.S. Lewis? As long as you believe in fantasy worlds, what about L. Ron Hubbard? Study him and you'll be a Scientologist in no time.

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Who else is on your list of "don't believe anything they write" ?
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"C.S. Lewis? As long as you believe in fantasy worlds, what about L. Ron Hubbard? Study him and you'll be a Scientologist in no time."

I am sorry that you feel that way about Lewis. Actually, he was an Oxford don and a Cambridge professor of Medieval literature. He is considered to have been one of the greatest philosophers of the 20th century. "The Abolition of Man" is about the degradation of the school system in England. We have seen the same occur here. By design, children and young adults are not taught to think critically, with the goal being unthinking compliance to orders by our political rulers. What other result could we logically expect since the federal government took over the schools? The fact that children grow up now into adults and blindly accept what they are being propagandized into believing about climate change is truly frightening, all without any provable facts or actual causal connections. Without the ability of our young adults to think critically, and to view the motives and words of people in government with great suspicion, I am not too optimistic about our future as a representative republic.

As far as fantasy goes, Al Gore is the high priest of the secular religion known as global warming, ........ well, now climate change. Tomorrow, something else.
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Who else is on your list of "don't believe anything they write" ?
You and John Grisham.

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As far as fantasy goes, Al Gore is the high priest of the secular religion known as global warming, ........ well, now climate change. Tomorrow, something else.
...if there is a tomorrow.

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After being in a travelling job for 30 years I can say I have been China, India, and Indonesia (counted) 12 times...the most polluted places on this planet. They would never comply with USA standards anyway so the crazy New Green Deal means nothing. Leave it to the left wing in the USA to think we ALONE can change world climate......NOT....That would be like trying to institute earth quake prevention here in California...not gonna happen....
Besides the usual miscreant suspects like China and India, note where the biggest hypocrites are poised: Seems they all want to game the "system" to gain/regain competitive advantage.
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I put a $1000 bet on the table that nothing will have changed for the worse in 10 years and we will still be gumming this to death. Any takers??

Here's a little humor on the subject.

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It is also interesting that there is no correlation between CO2 and warming trends when the climate is looked at over a very long time. Reverend Gore's hockey stick was of a very short time of human history, which makes it irrelevant.

I was speaking with my wife last evening about this thread and my comments, and she said, "Look at the title of the thread." The title is "Do you believe in global warming?" It has been my opinion that this global warming/climate change movement is a secular religious ideology. Everyone, both on this thread and worldwide, uses the phrase "do you believe?" That gives the game away, so to speak. No one would say, "Do you believe in gravity, or that the sun rises in the east, or that the earth is a sphere, or that the earth circles the sun, or that the earth rotates around its axis." There is no room for belief here because these are provable facts using the Scientific Method. We all use the term "believe" when discussing global warming and man's input because the "science" is not factual, but conjectural and based upon computer models and their program fallacies. It is my own opinion that global warming is a secular religion that is being taught as fact in our public schools and universities. Our young are intentionally not taught HOW to think critically, but are being taught WHAT to think. Our schools have become propaganda and programming institutions that are not too dissimilar to the Communist reeducation camps. Is anyone surprised that grade school children will actually state that they believe that the world will end in 12 years unless we stop capitalism, industrialism, and the use of fossil fuels NOW, we are all doomed? Who told them these things, and on whose orders?

Communism, socialism, and all of the other variants of group think always advance their cause by first attacking the traditions, institutions, and religious views of a targeted population. Once the minds of the young have been muddled and scrubbed, the teacher/indoctrinators tell the students WHAT to believe. History teaches us that once these indoctrinated children become adults and gain employment with government, they view the world from an authoritarian standpoint. That is when the killing begins. In the 20th century, about 100 million people were exterminated on the orders of people brought to power by group thinkers. They are the most dangerous people on earth.

Our own Constitution prohibits all people in government from imposing any belief system upon the citizenry. Read the First Amendment protecting our freedom of speech and freedom of religion. The freedom of religion clause is there, not to prevent people from imposing a religion upon the government, but to prohibit people in government from imposing a state sponsored religion upon the people. Global warming/climate change is a secular religion. I did some research on how SCOTUS defined religion, and they defined religion as any passionately held belief. There is that word again.
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Thoughtful comment.
England has had a long history of limited government. Through ancient traditions and the rule of law.
America's written constitution was expected to also provide limited government.
But another long experiment in authoritarian government has bypassed either system of limiting those who would use government to further their personal ambition.
Sad and dangerous.
Over the last few weeks, the Left is stating that capitalism causes "Global Warming" and for the sake of the planet capitalism must go.
And the Democrat-Socialists will make it happen.
Control freaks will use any story to, well, impose control.
In the "Sumpter Daily" of January 26, 1970 Dr. Arnold Reitze stated "we will be forced to sacrifice democracy..".
Why?
The article's headline was "New Ice Age" and the issue was "Global Cooling".
Which was caused by carbon particulates from industry and cars getting into the atmosphere and blocking energy from the Sun.
"Outlawing" of internal combustion engines would solve the grave problem of "Global Cooling".
All, of course, to be done right now.

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Thoughtful comment.
England has had a long history of limited government. Through ancient traditions and the rule of law.
America's written constitution was expected to also provide limited government.
But another long experiment in authoritarian government has bypassed either system of limiting those who would use government to further their personal ambition.
Sad and dangerous.
Over the last few weeks, the Left is stating that capitalism causes "Global Warming" and for the sake of the planet capitalism must go.
And the Democrat-Socialists will make it happen.
Control freaks will use any story to, well, impose control.
In the "Sumpter Daily" of January 26, 1971 Dr. Arnold Reitze stated "we will be forced to sacrifice democracy..".
Why?
The article's headline was "New Ice Age" and the issue was "Global Cooling".
Which was caused by carbon particulates from industry and cars getting into the atmosphere and blocking energy from the Sun.
"Outlawing" of internal combustion engines would solve the grave problem of "Global Cooling".
All, of course, to be done right now.
Before the Age of Enlightenment, the Church maligned science and progress to maintain their power and now the billionaires are doing the same. Neither religion or politics has a place in science.

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