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Last I read, the existing overall tariff summary comes about even between Canada and the US, depending on the product of course, maybe in favor of the US. They have theirs, and we have ours. Been that way for some time.

We do evidently have a large trade surplus with Canada. The U.S. government agency, Office of the United States Trade Representative, said U.S. had a $12.5 billion trade surplus for goods and services in 2016. Cannot blame them about being thinking they are being pushed around. It does appear that someone is acting in an uneducated way with tariffs, potentially causing pain in all areas, here and abroad. There will be no winners it seems.

But enough of that. No more.

Meanwhile, yes, tariffs on parts (maybe it would apply only to new parts, not used?) from Canada, Mexico, Europe, or China could raise the prices of needed parts. I hope not. Certainly a big tariff on the new Alfas would curb what sales they do have. That would be bad, but then again, all imported competition would be similarly affected. Even the US manufacturers would be affected, as material prices would go up. Time will tell.

Sigh, if it isn't one thing, it's another...
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It's called "negotiation."

We'll see what actually is implemented in the end. Until then, it's useless blather.

. . . and Stphers post is unnecessary and offensive. One of the ignore list.
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If you're gonna call out stphers's post as unnecessary and offensive then do the correct thing and call out ARwrench's infantile, imperialist, nationalististic reaction as well.

I agree that trade negotiations need to occur but if you believe that we're going to win by shutting down everything (borders, agreements, trade, and treaties of cooperation), we've already lost. When we were kids and one child had a tantrum about losing a game and went home and refused to talk to anyone did the other kids rush to his side? No, they ignored him and kept playing with each other.

China is already quietly, patiently stepping into the global leadership positions that the US has vacated. Do you think they're just going to give back that seat at the table when we want it back?

This isn't about republicans vs. democrats and I despise them equally. This is about the morbidly wealthy and the corporations vs. the people. It's about fearmongering and dividing us as a people who really are in this together.
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Moved to 'Off-Topic'.

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Disappointed in ARwrench's post.

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OMG ...it was a joke....you know..like a celeb saying "I'm moving to Canada if Trump wins"


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It's called "negotiation."

We'll see what actually is implemented in the end. Until then, it's useless blather.

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negotiating cages for the separated children from their parents at the boarder too ?....

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The EU tariff on US cars is 10%. The US tariff on EU cars is 2.5%. It will stay that way unless we force their hands.
Separating kids from human trafficers is a good idea. If you are trying to immigrate into the US with a child, either legally or illegally you can save yourself some grief by bringing proof of relationship. I was messed around by the State Dept for a couple of years when I entered legally but it was worth it.

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Funny, I distinctly recall DJT saying that trade wars are easy to win. He told me there would be so much winning that I'd get tired of winning. I am tired of whining.

This is a nutty thing-slapping a 25% tax on used cars. Call your congressman/woman and post on their FB page. They only respond to public pressure and fear of losing their seat. I'd tell you to show up at your town hall meetings but my cowardly representative stopped having public meetings 4 years ago. I've tried calling-the mailbox is full. Emails-no response to inquiries. I've been told that if I make significant campaign contributions, invites will happen. Woody Guthrie said it best "Money doesn't talk. it swears"
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Austin Alfa has it right. Last I checked this is an Alfa bb, not a political bb. So the point of this thread is to inform of the impending policy change that will affect Alfabb members so we can take whatever action each member feels is justified. That action can range from nothing, to getting your Highwood Alfa order in tomorrow, to calling your Congress person.

But given the amount of political commentary available in other venues, it seems redundant to debate such policies here.

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negotiating cages for the separated children from their parents at the boarder too ?....
Read this.... https://heavy.com/news/2018/06/immig...s-obama-trump/

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I placed a $300 order yesterday with Classic Alfa in the UK. If this goes through, I'm going to have to find a way to fund the needed parts for a couple of cars on my back burner before the new tariffs take effect.

Real republicans don't start trade wars. Real democrats don't support tariffs that hurt consumers. DJT is, I don't know what he is except a loose cannon on the international stage.
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Funny, I've been noticing an overall decline in the quantity of posts where people talk about their projects, show their progress and share their passion for Alfas.

Lo and behold, here's a thread that has nothing to do with Alfas (and in a channel where it doesn't even belong) and there are 40+ post in less than a week.

Can we get off the politics here - fake news, real news, whatever and get back onto the topic of Alfas? What do you own? What's your latest project? What are you working on?

Go find your related thread and post! Sure, the members of this forum have diverse viewpoints, political bents, belief systems - who cares. We all love Alfas.

If you want to talk about politics, I'm sure there are forums out there that you can post to.

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If you want to talk about politics, I'm sure there are forums out there that you can post to.
You are, of course, entirely entitled to your opinion, although I feel compelled to point out that this is the off-topic forum which is specifically set aside for just these kinds of "political" discussions. While I note your complaint about a decline in Alfa specific commentary, I shouldn't have to point out that there are commenters on this thread who have been members of the bb community for quite some time and who have---both collectively and individually---been responsible for considerable Alfa specific content over the years.

One thing that has allowed the Alfabb to be so successful is that it has always recognized that intellectual discourse and technical expertise compliment each other in very productive ways. There are always those who don't agree with this tradition but there is no requirement for them or you to come here.
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