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Yeah.
Hayek dedicated the book to "The socialists of all parties."
Or close to it.

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F.A. Hayek, The Road To Surfdom. Not exactly light summer reading but a necessary discussion of the differences between freedom and non-freedom.
My son made me read it and it inspired Maggie Thatcher. From my perspective two great references.

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My son made me read it and it inspired Maggie Thatcher. From my perspective two great references.
Interesting reference. Without the Falklands Maggie was on her way out big time. How they manipulated the press and public sentiment to mobilize for war was super scary. I lived there at the time, it changed my views on war and the role of politicians in it forever.

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It took quite a while for the Royal Navy to get the fleet prepared and underway.
Some friends in Vancouver had a vintage ocean-going tugboat. The Ivanhoe was some 100 feet long and represented its era. I think they ran it as a charity.
However, when the Brits made the decision to go, the head guy with the Ivanhoe sent a telegram to the First Sea Lord at the Admiralty. Offering assistance and suggesting that he had a good crew, and perhaps by the time the RN arrived it would be "all over".
Sovereignty was successfully established and all was quiet.
Then, months later the First Sea Lord sent a message to the Ivanhoe. It was a cleverly-written note with very kind thanks.
Can't recall the text but it was very good.
The original note could have been tossed but after the successful prosecution of that event, they took the time to send an amusing acknowledgment.
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F.A. Hayek, The Road To Surfdom. Not exactly light summer reading but a necessary discussion of the differences between freedom and non-freedom.
Actually, The Road to Surfdom sounds like perfect beach reading...

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It took a second look to notice the pun.

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F.A. Hayek as a surfer dude? Who'da thunk it!

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In the 1920s, both Hayek and Mises argued that the Communist/Socialist experiment in central planning would not work.
Without a price mechanism, there was no means of economic calculation.
It took a long time for the "command" economy to fail.
When it was seen as a failure, authoritarians came up with "global warming" and then "climate change".
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In one of Thomas Sowell's books he tells of an official state visit by Gorbachev to Great Britain which included a tour of a supermarket. He asked Thatcher how were they able to set all of the prices. He had no concept of a free market and his paradigm was the government setting prices. It is amazing that it took so long to fail.

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oops, car and parts tariff to 25% including oldtimers??

Hemmings: "Nor would they, Miller pointed out, given that the Harmonized Tariff Schedule, which sets tariffs for imports into the United States, lumps all passenger vehicles, new and old, into the same category (8703 – Motor cars and other motor vehicles principally designed for the transport of persons, including station wagons and racing cars), {now} taxed at 2.5 percent. . . . “It all depends on the way the proclamation is written and amended,” he said.
That tenfold increase in tariffs on imported cars could have disastrous consequences, according to collector car dealer Mark Hyman."

https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2018/0...de/?refer=news
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Oops indeed. Your boy’s doing it for “national security” reasons. Which nation though, isn’t immediately apparent.

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From the article linked above:

Sandra Button, the chair of the Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance, also released a statement regarding the tariffs of the weekend in which she said she “cannot imagine what might happen if imported collector cars and car parts are designated as national security risks and taxed at 25 percent. I cannot imagine how we will be able to maintain and share even the collector cars we already have in the United States – whether first made here or abroad. How will we be able to continue to use them?”

So, now your $1,000,000 Pebble Beach car will cost $1,250,000 to import from abroad?

Makes one think.
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Proposed tariffs on imported cars could halt all international collector car trade

Article on Hemmings states that getting our parts from overseas might become more expensive!

https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2018/0...de/?refer=news

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