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Selling car in the US

I'm seeking advice from US members of this forum:

I live overseas and I'm not US citizen. I've bought a Spider off Craiglist. Paid and had it shipped to New Jersey in order to have it shipped to my country.
I have original Title and Bill of Sale with the car.

On the same day I paid for that car, I came around another car, a much rarer opportunity. Something I've been looking for. The price was right so I bought that car as well.

Now I'm considering selling the Spider in the US, via eBay or here. My question is how to handle the paper work currently - Title and Bill of Sale. Title has my name at the back now.

Do I need new Title to be issued in my name now? Or can I just forward the original Title + original Bill of Sale + new Bill of Sale?
Do I need a notary stamp on the Bill of Sale?
Should Bill of Sale be original or scan also works?

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I am not a lawyer. But I would suggest you might want to contact one to act as your agent or at least to answer these types of questions. Every state has its own rules & laws - most of them are similar but not always exactly the same. (We're the United States of America...)

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Some folks might get scared away if the title is not in your name. You could call or write the county tax assessor where the car was last registered and ask them.

The other option is to sell the car without a title and only a bill of sale.

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I am not a lawyer. But I would suggest you might want to contact one to act as your agent
Yes, having some sort of a US-based representative seems like a good idea. I don't know if that should be an attorney, or a specialist in vehicle registration & titling.

I would recommend having a knowledgeable representative in place to prevent scams. If the car is just at someone's shop, you want to be sure that it doesn't get picked up until the money is in your account and proven real. There are a lot of scammers out there, and you can't expect a shop owner or storage garage operator to verify that the funds are good before releasing the car.

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The car is in storage of a large transport company that specializes in shipping cars overseas. So no one can pick it without my ok.
The problem is that I don't have time to look for a specialist.
I'll try to sell the car as is for a week and if doesn't work out - will ship it home.
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I suggest you proceed with getting the title in your name. That is mostly paperwork (and some money...). Then it'd be a lot easier to sell it.

Perhaps contact a local dealer. They know how to navigate the Department of Motor Vehicles rules and title laws.

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On the same day I paid for that car, I came around another car, a much rarer opportunity. Something I've been looking for. The price was right so I bought that car as well.
My suggestion is to follow the simple rule of first things first. If if were me, I'd want both cars in my physical possession before I moved to the next step of deciding which one would be sold. What you are suggesting is a process that can easily become more complex that you at first suspect.

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Jim,
Being overseas means I have to pay for freights and import duty on cars, thus quadrupling their initial cost.
So importing both cars is actually the second choice.
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The exact rules depend on the U.S. State where the title was issued as well as the State where the new buyer will register the car. Usually it is a very simple process, but again, it depends on the rules of the Dept of Motor Vehicles that the new owner will register the car in.

I bought my Alfa in Ohio, but registered it in South Dakota. All the DMV required in South Dakota was the title signed over by the seller and a bill of sale with the price specified (for tax purposes). However, in Ohio, both myself and the seller had to go to the Ohio DMV for him to sign the title over to me. Ohio...complicated. South Dakota .... not complicated. I think the father you go east or west in the US, the more onerous and intrusive government becomes.

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Since you have not physically inspected the cars, you run the risk of ending up with the one that is a rust bucket ... under shiny paint ...

You or somebody needs to do a detailed inspection and then sell the one you don't want IMO.
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Prices on both cars have been low enough but yes, import duty and freights will make them more expensive.

I think that most inspections don't know what to look for when it's about cars for restoration.
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.. in Ohio, both myself and the seller had to go to the Ohio DMV for him to sign the title over to me......I think the father you go east or west in the US, the more onerous and intrusive government becomes.
Your example suggests just the opposite. Here in California, the seller certainly doesn't need to visit the DMV just for a transfer of title.

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