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I don't know how it is in the US and other parts of the world, but in Australia these days split windscreen VW vans and pickups are worth stupid money, with people paying up to $200,000 for them. If only my brother and I had known that was going to happen when the things were worth peanuts 40 years ago. He is still a VW man and owns a 1955 van and a 1964 pickup, both of which he has had since way before they became collectors items. Anyway, yesterday I came across this ebay listing for a 1955 panel van that has been sitting derelict near the seaside on Philip Island in Victoria for at least 40 years by the look of it. I have seen some rusty vehicles in my time and we all know the rusty Alfa story, but this thing takes the cake as far as I am concerned. Bidding is hot for it and defies all reason. It makes most of the rusty Alfas I have seen on the BB look pristine in comparison. I think the thing is totally beyond redemption, but the bidders obviously think they can perform miracles. The seller must be feeling pretty happy though.

Rare 1955 VW Kombi Panelvan Semaphore VAN in VIC | eBay

Current Alfas
2010 159 ti 1750 TBI sedan (red).
2004 GT 3.2 V6 (Stromboli Grey).
2008 159 TI Sportwagon 2.4 JTDM (Stromboli Grey).
1987 75 3 litre (red). My first 75 and now my son's.
2000 156 2 litre Twin Spark, ( Cosmos Blu metallic), my daughter's car.
2000 156 Monza Twin Spark, (Cosmos Blue metallic), sonís girlfiendís car.
1999 GTV 3 litre 24 valve V6, metallic black, (sonís new car).

Non Alfa
1988 Range Rover Classic Highline 3.9 V8

Past Alfas
1989 75 3 litre, written off by runaway van.
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (black), now sold & living in Newcastle NSW.
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (grey, sadly deceased due to fire).
1982 GTV 2 litre, red, (daughter's first Alfa)
2 x 1992 164s, (1 red, 1 grey).
2 x 1988 33s, (both red).
1985 GTV 2 litre, (white).
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eBay removed the auction.

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eBay removed the auction.
No, it is still there. It is an Australian listing.

Current Alfas
2010 159 ti 1750 TBI sedan (red).
2004 GT 3.2 V6 (Stromboli Grey).
2008 159 TI Sportwagon 2.4 JTDM (Stromboli Grey).
1987 75 3 litre (red). My first 75 and now my son's.
2000 156 2 litre Twin Spark, ( Cosmos Blu metallic), my daughter's car.
2000 156 Monza Twin Spark, (Cosmos Blue metallic), sonís girlfiendís car.
1999 GTV 3 litre 24 valve V6, metallic black, (sonís new car).

Non Alfa
1988 Range Rover Classic Highline 3.9 V8

Past Alfas
1989 75 3 litre, written off by runaway van.
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (black), now sold & living in Newcastle NSW.
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (grey, sadly deceased due to fire).
1982 GTV 2 litre, red, (daughter's first Alfa)
2 x 1992 164s, (1 red, 1 grey).
2 x 1988 33s, (both red).
1985 GTV 2 litre, (white).
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I don't know how it is in the US and other parts of the world, but in Australia these days split windscreen VW vans and pickups are worth stupid money, with people paying up to $200,000 for them. If only my brother and I had known that was going to happen when the things were worth peanuts 40 years ago. He is still a VW man and owns a 1955 van and a 1964 pickup, both of which he has had since way before they became collectors items. Anyway, yesterday I came across this ebay listing for a 1955 panel van that has been sitting derelict near the seaside on Philip Island in Victoria for at least 40 years by the look of it. I have seen some rusty vehicles in my time and we all know the rusty Alfa story, but this thing takes the cake as far as I am concerned. Bidding is hot for it and defies all reason. It makes most of the rusty Alfas I have seen on the BB look pristine in comparison. I think the thing is totally beyond redemption, but the bidders obviously think they can perform miracles. The seller must be feeling pretty happy though.

Rare 1955 VW Kombi Panelvan Semaphore VAN in VIC | eBay
This company makes almost all the body panels and structural parts for buses. They have even built complete new body's using all there new parts.

https://klassicfab.com/klassicfab1/en/

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This company makes almost all the body panels and structural parts for buses. They have even built complete new body's using all there new parts.

https://klassicfab.com/klassicfab1/en/
Thanks for the link. Someone paid $7,800 for that rust heap. You would have to buy all the new panels from that crowd and build a complete new van. I doubt there is any usable metal on it. There wouldn't be anywhere near $7,800 worth of parts on it either. It only has one front and one side door handle and those are unique to that model. Maybe they are planning to build a whole new van, attach the id plate to it, claim that it is an original and sell it for $200,000. When we bought my brother's van in the late 70s we had to replace all the chassis cross members and the front panel and door pillars, but at least the rest of it was solid. It took us 18 months to do it. It is my brother's daily driver and work vehicle for carrying his PA system and other stuff.

Current Alfas
2010 159 ti 1750 TBI sedan (red).
2004 GT 3.2 V6 (Stromboli Grey).
2008 159 TI Sportwagon 2.4 JTDM (Stromboli Grey).
1987 75 3 litre (red). My first 75 and now my son's.
2000 156 2 litre Twin Spark, ( Cosmos Blu metallic), my daughter's car.
2000 156 Monza Twin Spark, (Cosmos Blue metallic), sonís girlfiendís car.
1999 GTV 3 litre 24 valve V6, metallic black, (sonís new car).

Non Alfa
1988 Range Rover Classic Highline 3.9 V8

Past Alfas
1989 75 3 litre, written off by runaway van.
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (black), now sold & living in Newcastle NSW.
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (grey, sadly deceased due to fire).
1982 GTV 2 litre, red, (daughter's first Alfa)
2 x 1992 164s, (1 red, 1 grey).
2 x 1988 33s, (both red).
1985 GTV 2 litre, (white).
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I think you are right...at current silly prices for restored examples the $7,800 purchase price is effectively nothing - a buyer could replace everything but the 3 inches of metal where the VIN no sits with all new metal, and still make a quid.

Bit of a shame tho, when it just starts to be all about the money.
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I think you are right...at current silly prices for restored examples the $7,800 purchase price is effectively nothing - a buyer could replace everything but the 3 inches of metal where the VIN no sits with all new metal, and still make a quid.

Bit of a shame tho, when it just starts to be all about the money.
I bet they don't advertise it as a replica, which is what it will be. Those old vans don't have a vin number, but a chassis number stamped into the back of the engine bay.

I like old kombis because I grew up with them and learned to drive in one of Dad's, but I don't understand how they came to be worth silly money. I doubt that many of the people buying them have any idea of what it is like to drive one. They are fun in their own way but are extremely noisy, have terrible handling, mediocre brakes and uncomfortable seats. At least my brother's is still being used as a workhorse, which is what it was designed for. It still does a good job of that.

Current Alfas
2010 159 ti 1750 TBI sedan (red).
2004 GT 3.2 V6 (Stromboli Grey).
2008 159 TI Sportwagon 2.4 JTDM (Stromboli Grey).
1987 75 3 litre (red). My first 75 and now my son's.
2000 156 2 litre Twin Spark, ( Cosmos Blu metallic), my daughter's car.
2000 156 Monza Twin Spark, (Cosmos Blue metallic), sonís girlfiendís car.
1999 GTV 3 litre 24 valve V6, metallic black, (sonís new car).

Non Alfa
1988 Range Rover Classic Highline 3.9 V8

Past Alfas
1989 75 3 litre, written off by runaway van.
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (black), now sold & living in Newcastle NSW.
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (grey, sadly deceased due to fire).
1982 GTV 2 litre, red, (daughter's first Alfa)
2 x 1992 164s, (1 red, 1 grey).
2 x 1988 33s, (both red).
1985 GTV 2 litre, (white).
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