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1964 Morris Cooper S (alfa rival)

For sale my 1-series 1964 Morris Cooper S - MK1.
All stock 1275 engine and comes with Manufactor Certificate.
Interior! Imported from the UK factory brand new, special order complete from the headliner to the floor mats, panels etc.

Price $33,000 Firm.
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Looks really good. I had an Ocean Blue/white '67 Cooper S (NLX585F), modified by Downton Engr of Salisbury, England to 125 hp. Last legal one imported into the States, I was been told. Brought here in Spring of '68. Of course, there are lots of later ones floating around.

You should advertise this on the Samoa (Seattle Area Mini Owners Assoc) web site (Seattle Area Mini Owners Association), as they have probably 135 members and about 90 running Minis of all sorts. Quite the active club since 1964. Your price might be a little high, though.

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62 Morris MiniMinor 850, 67 Austin 1275 Cooper S (Downton 3/4 race), 64 Giulia Sprint GT (1st red one made), 72 Fiat 128 Sedan, 75 Alfetta Sedan, 78 Alfetta Sedan, 78 GTV, 81 GTV6, 86 GTV6
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Thanks for the Mini info;
Regarding my asking price! i say its to low because i have not yet seen one like mine and same year model lower than my price. In the contrary a 1965 add for 38000euros and a 66 for 57000euros. All these in Europe for sale.
To be honest with you i dont care to sell the car i just want to test the water's.
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Good point! but if you see this add is not fit to be here for some reason take it down want heart my feelings.
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"i say its to low because i have not yet seen one like mine and same year model lower than my price."

Euro prices don't seem to count much here. I suspect it's because there may be a large value added tax on them in Europe. They do tend to sell for less out west in the US, where there are quite a few like yours. However, yours is a nice one alright. Sometimes I wish I hadn't sold mine, but with 125 hp, things wore out quickly in the drivetrain, and it required a full engine, tranny, diff rebuild every 5000 miles, the basic A series engine 850 originally having ~37 hp, the 66-67 Cooper S with, what, ~68hp? Got tired of that after a while. Did win many trophies autocrossing with it, though. Bought Alfas instead, and they turned out to be much more reliable.

Hope you realize a good price on it.

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1989 Milano, Shankle Sport
1991 164S, stock
1994 164LS (~Q)
1972 Morgan 27

previously owned since 1964:

62 Morris MiniMinor 850, 67 Austin 1275 Cooper S (Downton 3/4 race), 64 Giulia Sprint GT (1st red one made), 72 Fiat 128 Sedan, 75 Alfetta Sedan, 78 Alfetta Sedan, 78 GTV, 81 GTV6, 86 GTV6

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Did your car came from Portugal? The front Plate is Portuguese...
Nice car !
Here it would be about the same price range but in €€, so it'd be a bit more expensive.

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Obrigado pelos complementos.
No the car is original from the UK as the Origen Certificate states. Also the right door handle prof the same of its key lock.
The car was converted to left hand at the Doctor's request.
The Portuguese plate were given me from my uncle that lives in Pedras Salgadas.
Talking about the price earlier on; I had the Mini Cooper President Club of Chaves 5 year's ago offering me 36,000Euros but I had to legalize the car in PT for him. Has you know foreign cars to get legal in that Country is a pain.
I no what rare car and model this is in the World.
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By July 2007 it became nearly impossible to import classic cars here, taxes are now applied by emissions %, so old cars get huge annual taxes. And if it's from a country outside EU, Huge import taxes.

Normally it's up to the purchaser to get that done and paid, which adding to the purchase value makes it impractical...

Nonetheless, great rare and valuable car. And the price your asking is well within the pool of current prices in Europe, wether the market it's very different in US i don't know. But I guess if it's rare car here, it must be rarer still overseas.

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"it must be rarer still overseas"

Not too rare, as many were imported into the States through the years. As I mentioned, they come up for sale once in a while around here, and the local club has about 90 of them.

Didn't realize there wouldn't be a ton of them in Europe yet. I was always interested in the Italian Innocenti version. There are several in the local area.

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1989 Milano, Shankle Sport
1991 164S, stock
1994 164LS (~Q)
1972 Morgan 27

previously owned since 1964:

62 Morris MiniMinor 850, 67 Austin 1275 Cooper S (Downton 3/4 race), 64 Giulia Sprint GT (1st red one made), 72 Fiat 128 Sedan, 75 Alfetta Sedan, 78 Alfetta Sedan, 78 GTV, 81 GTV6, 86 GTV6
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Wow! 90 of them for sale you say! send me one like mine I would love to see and in the same condition.
Also for the price argument todays NADA; High Retail;$34,300 + $3,500 for left hand drive = $37,800 way higher than I was asking.
Nice I love to see them going north on price every year.
I also might had as an Alfa fan! in todays World market is much easier to find a Step Nose Alfa or 1750 GTV 1 Series than a 64 Morris Cooper S.
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it required a full engine, tranny, diff rebuild every 5000 miles, the basic A series engine 850 originally having ~37 hp, the 66-67 Cooper S with, what, ~68hp? Got tired of that after a while.
My brother and I rebuilt a stock 850 engine for a friend's Morris Minor ute once and everything was worn out from the rocker cover to the sump plug. The machine shop tried to steal the crankshaft because ours still had one re-grind to go and even ones in that condition were very hard to find. This was in the late 70s. After all that work it still wouldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding as my dad would say. Our friend ended up putting an 1100cc engine in the Morris and is still driving it today. I don't know how many rebuilds it has had since then or what engine is in it now. This same friend by the way, was given a Stepnose Giulia, in fantastic condition, for free by an old friend last year. I wish I had a friend like that! Our friend also owns an MG TB and an equally rare aluminium bodied Triumph 1800 roadster. He has owned the MG since the 1960s and the Triumph was left to him by his dad. I believe only 800 TBs were ever made and about 600 of the Triumphs.

I don't know how much old Coopers sell for here, but there are a few around on the road and there are guys that race them in the circuit sprints our club attends and in the Adelaide Targa classic rally. They are certainly an iconic car. Good luck with yours Charli!

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2010 159 ti 1750 TBI sedan (red).
2004 GT 3.2 V6 (Stromboli Grey).
2008 159 TI Sportwagon 2.4 JTDM (Stromboli Grey).
1987 75 3 litre (red). My first 75 and now my son's.
2000 156 2 litre Twin Spark, ( Cosmos Blu metallic), my daughter's car.
2000 156 Monza Twin Spark, (Cosmos Blue metallic), sonís girlfiendís car.
1999 GTV 3 litre 24 valve V6, metallic black, (sonís new car).

Non Alfa
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1989 75 3 litre, written off by runaway van.
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (black), now sold & living in Newcastle NSW.
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (grey, sadly deceased due to fire).
1982 GTV 2 litre, red, (daughter's first Alfa)
2 x 1992 164s, (1 red, 1 grey).
2 x 1988 33s, (both red).
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The 67's were nice in that the crankshaft was nitrided, and you didn't have have it turned, just polished a little, and put standard shell bearing back in. The **** crankshaft never wore out, like everything else, esp the differential. The spider gear arrangement wore very quickly.

Ever sell a car for what NADA says? Never happens. But that's ok, if you can get it, good, but if you can't, it means that I could once again afford one, lol.

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1989 Milano, Shankle Sport
1991 164S, stock
1994 164LS (~Q)
1972 Morgan 27

previously owned since 1964:

62 Morris MiniMinor 850, 67 Austin 1275 Cooper S (Downton 3/4 race), 64 Giulia Sprint GT (1st red one made), 72 Fiat 128 Sedan, 75 Alfetta Sedan, 78 Alfetta Sedan, 78 GTV, 81 GTV6, 86 GTV6

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I would swap if it was RHD

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