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09-12-2019 04:27 PM
Lia Hi I wondering if the rocket cover to my 1964 Alfa Romeo Giulia Spider 101.23 series is correct? I had someone query it and I was hoping someone could confirm if it’s the correct one on the vehicle. Photos attached
07-31-2019 03:28 PM
Lia The chassis number is AR 1495 08587
07-31-2019 03:25 PM
Lia Thank you so much for the information Greg. This information is extremely helpful.
07-31-2019 11:42 AM
AlfistiSA Hello Lia, welcome to the BB

The archives have the final word on production date of your car - 28 December 1959 it is

OK, you have a long wheel base Interim / Transition Spider, the model designation should be 10103 (or 10104 if it is one of the USA Spec tipo cars). Technically it's a 101 model with LWB & quarter light windows, however during the Interim period Alfa still ran the old 750 designations of 1495*XXXXX (in your case 1495*08587), but by the very end of '59 they were running the 00102 engines, the 750 type 1315 motor was phased out some time around the middle of '59 to be replaced by a short lived 101 type engine which was still designated 1315 but numbered from 01001 to 010509 - easily identifiable as a 101 type as it has a block mounted fuel pump.

The change from SWB to LWB is given in the Parts Manual as chassis 1495*08001, but we know that it happened some 500 cars earlier circa 1495*07500

I have a Feb '60 1495*08930 and a 15 July '60 1493*10990, both of which are LWB Interim/Transition cars still using the old 750 chassis numbering systems, but both are 10103 Spider Normale's.

3 more posts and you can attach pictures - car + chassis number engine & engine number plus the Data plate will help in identifying what you have, this is from my '60 Normale

07-16-2019 05:51 AM
Lia Thank you once again Joe for your assistance. It’s been a great help.
07-16-2019 04:40 AM
jkbartusek Lia,
Based on the chassis number clearly a long wheelbase car, a 101.03 or 101.04.
No need to go measuring the length of the door.
Incidentally, the easiest way to tell if it is a long wheelbase car is to look at the crossmember behind the drivers seat; if it goes straight across the car it is a SWB, if it had an indent it is a LWB.
The anomaly between the 1959 quoted by Alfa Archives and the Fusi records is because the cars were not produced in numerical sequence, hence the yearly cut offs can only be approximate.

07-15-2019 06:42 PM
kuni123456 I normally go by the production date and not the sale date. I do not think that it matters if you call your car 1959 or early 1960 but, the car is probaby a 101 Giulietta Spider. I have a late 1959 Sprint engine that has a 1495 serial number but, it is a 101 1300 engine. The easy way to find out what body you have is to measure the door and I could measure a door from several 750 Spiders and see if you have a 90 inch wheel base.
07-15-2019 04:10 PM
Lia Thanks again for the information, much appreciated
07-15-2019 03:10 PM
6alfas Most cars used to be titled when they were sold. Seeing as how your Spider was made the last week of December, it wouldn't have been sold and titled until 1960. It's either one of the last ~50 cars made in 1959, or one of the first 50 made in 1960, depending on how you look at it. I don't know that it makes a difference being a super late 1959 model, or a super early 1960 model. Technically you could take the documentation from the Alfa archives to your DMV and see if they would change it to 1959 if you like the sound of that better.
07-15-2019 02:35 PM
Lia According to the Alfa archives the vehicle was produced on the 28 December 1959 and delivered to Indiana on 1 st February 1960 so perhaps that’s why it’s recorded as a 1960?

Based on this info, Would it be correct to say the vehicle is a 1959 or 1960?
07-15-2019 02:21 PM
6alfas Unless Fusi is wrong, that would make it a 1960 101 Spider.
07-15-2019 01:39 PM
Lia Hi Joe

The chassis number is AR 1495 08587

Thanks again

07-15-2019 07:17 AM
jkbartusek I take it that the data plate under the hood is missing.
What is the chassis number on the firewall?

07-15-2019 05:31 AM
Lia Thank you for the information Kuni, much appreciated.
I’m thinking it’s a 101 series however I was hoping to identify it from the body as the 1300 engine is from another Alfa of that time.
07-14-2019 10:20 PM
kuni123456 The 1959 Spider is normally has a 750 engine and could have either a tunnel case transmission or a split case transmission. I recently restored a 1959 Spider Veloce that had a 750 engine with a split case transmission, 101 front suspension, later type steering box and of course the 750 Spider 88 inch wheel base. I am not sure when Alfa started to produce the 101 Spider body that is two inches longer than 750 body.
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