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Yesterday 08:21 AM
Luigim
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Originally Posted by Rogue Leader View Post
Brake calipers are now red:



Drivers front suspension is almost complete:



Man that control arm can be a pain to install, needed to get it into place with a pry bar as the bolt holes didn't line up very well.

Did some finishing work in the engine bay, tightened down all those brake lines I replaced. I swapped the transmission fluid for 2 quarts of Redline 75w90 I had left over from my race car.

Ended up removing the rear cradle again. I discovered that I had the wrong combination of washers on the bolts on top, also that I need to put that together AFTER installing the brake proportioning lever. So correct me if I'm wrong but the top bolt needs to be only lightly snugged up, the clip on caps attached to the top washer between that and the thick washer on the other side provide tension to keep the nut from vibrating off. I figured to add some RED Loctite to the top nut as well. The bottom bolt looks like it has the room for the nut to bottom out if I don't use too many thick washers.

Will put that back in next week, I should have my new lever and valve from Jason by then.
looks good! A little bit of paint adds to the fun factor....like a spoonful of sugar
Yesterday 07:22 AM
Rogue Leader
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Originally Posted by Del View Post
OK, these ARE the struts from El Paso, so I got confused as to who had said what about whose products were out there. Phhht.

Hmmm, should have given them a visit when we were in El Paso earlier this Spring visiting relatives. Oh well, next time, now that Alaska Air flies nonstop to there from Seattle, and back.

Will be interesting as to how the spring rates work out. Did you choose the different spring rates to equal, say, the S rates or stiffer, or were they just what they had as stock?

The price doesn't seem out of bounds for sure.
The shop is very nice its called Patterson Performance, they are the exclusive importer and distributor for Yellow Speed. They obviously won't have the 164 parts in stock, but the shock bodies for all kits are basically the same so you can see that part. The unique parts to the car are the threaded lower mounts and the solid upper mount that both just twist/bolt on. They install them on every sort of car (even saw a Lamborghini once), and I've never seen a bad review

Spring rates from the factory on them are 560 front and 225 rear. I believe they are a little stiffer than stock on the S. They do offer springs (but really any brand 2.5 inch ID springs will work), but I'd have to buy them separately (which is normal unless you're getting custom made coilovers, ST suspension did the same thing when I bought them for my race car- what comes with it, comes with it). I think they are close enough that I can dial out any harshness with the damper settings. Right now I'm starting with their recommended 12 clicks front 8 rear, and will give it a few runs up and down the road before adjusting.

If you replace the spring you'd need to set the preload yourself which is not very complicated you just need the 2 included spanners and a metric ruler, the procedure is in the manual.
07-14-2019 10:08 PM
Del OK, these ARE the struts from El Paso, so I got confused as to who had said what about whose products were out there. Phhht.

Hmmm, should have given them a visit when we were in El Paso earlier this Spring visiting relatives. Oh well, next time, now that Alaska Air flies nonstop to there from Seattle, and back.

Will be interesting as to how the spring rates work out. Did you choose the different spring rates to equal, say, the S rates or stiffer, or were they just what they had as stock?

The price doesn't seem out of bounds for sure.
07-14-2019 09:46 PM
horsewidower Worked on putting the DIY vapor blaster cabinet together. Had help from a friend from the bay area. 4 hands made the task much easier than trying to do it alone. The caulking will cure for a week, then I'll hit it with some flex seal. After that, the fun really starts with setting up the blasting.

On a less successful note, I was supposed to go help a buddy, next weekend, put his GTV racecar back together. Unfortunately, his shop is still without electricity, so he asked to postpone until PG&E finally does the work that has been on the books for about 6 months.

So back to various Alfas and lawn equipment next weekend.
07-14-2019 08:30 PM
Rogue Leader
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Originally Posted by Del View Post
Certainly something to keep in mind if one doesn't want to rebuild the S "electro" shocks or find good used regular 164 struts, although I suspect the price will be higher by a bit. I hope you write up a manual for fitting these on a 164.

Again, how much did they finally charge you for the set? And the total cost to you of installation so far?

I wonder how they compare with those from the outfit in El Paso someone on the BB had previously mentioned?
My shocks both don't work and are rotted out so I was short on options too.

Price listed is $979, I paid $880 shipped, TBH they often have a 10% off sale code especially if you follow them on social media. As for fitting them, they so far have been completely drop in. No modification or anything required, they fit perfectly in stock mounts. Raising and lowering the height in the front is easy as you just unlock that lower collar and twist them due to the spherical bearings at the top. Rear is tougher as they are fixed so you need to either unbolt the top or bottom to raise or lower it. I kinda eyeballed it the best I could. The fronts I made just a bit shorter than the stock ones, the rears I made as tall as was safe, which is about 1 inch shorter than the stockers. However that doesn't mean it will be dropped that much as the springs are stiffer. Have to drop it on the ground to see what height it really will be. Dampers are also 33 way adjustable. I'm aiming for about a 1.5 inch drop evenly across the whole car, which will probably need some trial and error.

These guys are in El Paso, I have a whole thread on them I'll update once I can drive them. There is one other company AMR Engineering in Washington but they are twice the price, probably not any better, and the guy doesn't answer phonecalls or emails, so as far as I'm concerned he can go pound sand.
07-14-2019 08:04 PM
alfaloco I went over my '91 Spider yesterday, getting it prepped for the trip to Pittsburgh for the AROC national convention. Our son Mike is going with me, also... looking forward to total Alfa immersion together for the weekend.
07-14-2019 07:36 PM
Del Certainly something to keep in mind if one doesn't want to rebuild the S "electro" shocks or find good used regular 164 struts, although I suspect the price will be higher by a bit. I hope you write up a manual for fitting these on a 164.

Again, how much did they finally charge you for the set? And the total cost to you of installation so far?

I wonder how they compare with those from the outfit in El Paso someone on the BB had previously mentioned?
07-14-2019 06:52 PM
Rogue Leader
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Originally Posted by therealguy419 View Post
What brand are those Coilovers?
Yellow Speed

https://yellowspeedracingusa.com/col...ers-alfa-romeo

Funny enough the pictures of them on their website are mine I posted on Instagram and Facebook, I (at least at that point) had the only set in the country. Yellow Speed USA didn't know their European and Asian counterparts offered them, until I asked if they can get them here. I started a whole thread on them I planned to update once I got the car together and I actually tried them out. I will say so far they fit perfectly, everything is very precise, for example the spacer on the front fit in there like a glove.

They are made to order, takes about a month to get them.
07-14-2019 06:39 PM
therealguy419
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Originally Posted by Rogue Leader View Post
Brake calipers are now red:



Drivers front suspension is almost complete:



Man that control arm can be a pain to install, needed to get it into place with a pry bar as the bolt holes didn't line up very well.

Did some finishing work in the engine bay, tightened down all those brake lines I replaced. I swapped the transmission fluid for 2 quarts of Redline 75w90 I had left over from my race car.

Ended up removing the rear cradle again. I discovered that I had the wrong combination of washers on the bolts on top, also that I need to put that together AFTER installing the brake proportioning lever. So correct me if I'm wrong but the top bolt needs to be only lightly snugged up, the clip on caps attached to the top washer between that and the thick washer on the other side provide tension to keep the nut from vibrating off. I figured to add some RED Loctite to the top nut as well. The bottom bolt looks like it has the room for the nut to bottom out if I don't use too many thick washers.

Will put that back in next week, I should have my new lever and valve from Jason by then.
What brand are those Coilovers?
07-14-2019 05:56 PM
Rogue Leader Brake calipers are now red:



Drivers front suspension is almost complete:



Man that control arm can be a pain to install, needed to get it into place with a pry bar as the bolt holes didn't line up very well.

Did some finishing work in the engine bay, tightened down all those brake lines I replaced. I swapped the transmission fluid for 2 quarts of Redline 75w90 I had left over from my race car.

Ended up removing the rear cradle again. I discovered that I had the wrong combination of washers on the bolts on top, also that I need to put that together AFTER installing the brake proportioning lever. So correct me if I'm wrong but the top bolt needs to be only lightly snugged up, the clip on caps attached to the top washer between that and the thick washer on the other side provide tension to keep the nut from vibrating off. I figured to add some RED Loctite to the top nut as well. The bottom bolt looks like it has the room for the nut to bottom out if I don't use too many thick washers.

Will put that back in next week, I should have my new lever and valve from Jason by then.
07-14-2019 03:07 PM
therealguy419 Things have been fine here in the Alfa world of mine. Shes been one solid 164 and still love driving it. Somewhere down the road I lost one of my center wheel caps. Looks like I'll have to pick some up to fill in the empty spot.
07-14-2019 02:46 PM
Luigim
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Originally Posted by Del View Post
Yup, that's exactly what happened to my LS, the connection being dirty, having not been routinely cleaned and re-protected for a few years. I always tell people to first easily check all the electrical connections in these dirty engine bays, so maybe I should follow my own advice, lol.
I took your advice
07-14-2019 10:32 AM
Del Yup, that's exactly what happened to my LS, the connection being dirty, having not been routinely cleaned and re-protected for a few years. I always tell people to first easily check all the electrical connections in these dirty engine bays, so maybe I should follow my own advice, lol.
07-14-2019 03:31 AM
beeton To quote the great Daffy Duck....
"You morooon, you nin-com-----poop", I refer to myself.
My code 1221 was due to an loosely connected afm harness.
Have a great day.
07-13-2019 06:23 PM
Rogue Leader
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Originally Posted by beeton View Post
My problem are exactly. Had to replace much of the metal around the tow hook area. I don't think it is the above problem but the below problem with rust starting at the bolts holding the tray in place (as I think the tray holds moisture in) and that rot works into the seam and up to the gas cap area. If you stop it early enough, you can keep it from becoming fatal.
My Gas cap area:



I already have a perfect mint rear quarter to replace it from Richard2
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