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|04-16-2019 07:32 PM|
I had a look at Fusi's book page 846 which has production listed only up to 1972. It shows in 1972 only 890 RHD GT 1600 Juniors were made and only 340 RHD GT 1300 Juniors, not many to start with, while there were 1,909 2L RHD cars. While the big sellers in the RHD market in 1972 were the 2L RHD Berlinas selling 3,364 cars.
RHD 1972 production
GTJ 1300 Junior: 340 cars
GT 1600 Junior: 890 cars
GTV 2L: 1,909 cars
2L Berlina: 3,364 cars.
LHD 1972 production
GTJ 1300 Junior: 6,628 cars
GT 1600 Junior: 3,609 cars
GTV 2L: 10,225 cars
2L Berlina: 29,484 cars
The proportion of RHD/LHD in1972
GTJ 1300 Junior: 5.1%
GT 1600 Junior: 24.6%
GTV 2L: 18.6%
2L Berlina: 11.4%
RHD cars listed from 1971 production as listed on https://www.classicalfaromeoregistry...105-giulias/gt
GTJ 1300 Junior: 4 cars (smooth nose cars)
GT 1600 Junior: 16 cars
GTV 2L: 38 cars
|04-16-2019 06:07 PM|
I’ve got one of these (RHD 1600GTJ)
I though we were denied the c-pillar badges by the trim dept because the Junior was too cheap ?
|04-16-2019 04:51 PM|
|Somer||Well you can ask what ever you want. My mentor had a great mantra :"All you gotta do is want it more than me".|
|04-16-2019 09:10 AM|
Originally Posted by Karter7 View Post
|04-15-2019 07:17 PM|
The car is still on the Classic Throttle Shop website and I could see it in the showroom when I drove past yesterday.
I did not have time to stop and have a look.
|04-06-2019 03:17 AM|
|AutodeltaGTA||The car is being advertised on carandclassic.co.uk so might not have been sold......|
|04-02-2019 01:15 PM|
Surely the miles are 105000 ?
Hope so for the cars sake, but 5000 only would explain the condition of the shell.
|04-02-2019 12:03 PM|
|divotandtralee||The car is a bit of an outlier for us amerikans.. RHD included.. I would say it would draw between 65 and 75 here in US$ IF it was LHD. RHD down under would give it a nod for a premium so added all together it is not a market setter especially by the fact not many of these (RHD especially) are in the pipeline. The only question I have is why so many serious REPAIRS.. not refreshes.. to the engine, exhaust(??Huh?) and whatever else that a 5000 mile car wouldn't need. Seems the history would be worth investigating but it is a clean car by any measure. Concours? who really gives a rats whether it is a 90 point car or a 100 point car?? Those ribbons are considered less and less on values in MY opinion if the cars shows superficially well especially club and regional concours. In this condition, I'd have a hard time enjoying it. I sold all my trophies for that reason. Anxiety over where to park, rain clouds, or leave it unattended is a thing of the past with me and life is so much more fun in my Alfas.|
|04-02-2019 01:53 AM|
Cheap 105s existed once!
That will be the stories people huddled around a camp fire (i.e. chat rooms) will be telling in the near future.
|04-01-2019 05:24 AM|
|alfa2go||Yes, for sure. I can’t assume on the motivations of any collectors. I’m a design professional hence where I put value to my collecting (which is broader than cars). So many approaches to collecting. I think most on this board do not approach from an ‘investment’ slant so rising values have been a silver lining, but like others, it’s a bit saddening as I doubt I’ll ever afford a rhd duetto to add to my herd now. I miss cheap 105’s!|
|04-01-2019 04:46 AM|
Originally Posted by alfa2go View Post
But you have to give collectors a bit more credit for the items they buy and why they buy them. Some collectors don't adhere to social and cultural trends of today or those of the past, some of which you mentioned, like first edition 'stamp collecting principles' applied to items like cars, etc..
Do you think the 1600GTj will sell for $250k in 3 years? No way you would say!
What would the collector think? If it does they have doubled the value of their investment, but that may be a side benefit, as it may not be the reason the collector purchased the car in the first place.
|03-31-2019 07:13 PM|
Originally Posted by Steve105 View Post
My value is based on the first edition principle as well as original design factor. Kombi, E-type, etc. So I believe there are others that agree with me...
|03-31-2019 06:08 PM|
Originally Posted by Karter7 View Post
[Ocha coloured cars tend to be painted with a light blue undercoat, so still can sand down/ scrape most of the the light blue off and repaint it ocha as it was originally, if you want to!]
|03-31-2019 05:57 PM|
I understand what you prefer, but the reality is that is not how the world works.
take the example of the first Australian penny minted 1911 value $26 in VF condition as opposed to the 1930 penny VF condition can be worth A$45,000 or more.
|03-31-2019 05:36 PM|
Interesting point Steve, I also think colour may have been one of the factors for a higher price for this car. It went through a phase of being undesirable while resale red was hitting its straps but now this colour is looked upon favourably.
Same in the Montreal world, metallic brown was poo-pooed for a while but now has a growing list of admirers!
For me the first model of any series should be be close to either the most valuable or sought after as I have a great respect for cars that are as the designer envisaged them. Sometimes the first revision can be slightly better as it is usually just a refinement to that model.
Too many variations down the years generally dilutes that vision as the manufacturer tries to stretch the sales out of each model.
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