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04-05-2019 12:00 AM
apriliadriver I saw this car at auction in London : can't quote dates as I have sold my auction catalogue collection. As I recall, it was a Coys auction in the Royal Agricultural Hall in Vincent Square, Westminster.
The car was then unrestored and the story that went with it is contained in elements of the the previous posts. It was called 'the Snake car' on account of the fact that the owner had found numerous large long snake-skins in the pontoon from its time resting in Angola.
03-27-2019 04:07 PM
Vivace This might be the Targa Florio.....?

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This might be in Spain...? Just guessing with the signs. That's not the old Targa pits is it?
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And this is obviously Goodwood more recently. It's included in the article above so I assume it's the same car. Rear flares are different. Nose has no vent holes.
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03-27-2019 03:08 PM
Vivace This group of pics appear to be the same car, and I see a traffic sign that says ANGOL, and riveted-on flares.

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03-27-2019 02:57 PM
Vivace I may have found something interesting to add -


This is a google translation from Portuguese from the Jornal Dos Classicos, 1996.
https://www.jornaldosclassicos.com/2...apar-a-guerra/

"The Alfa Romeo 33/2 that was buried in Angola to escape the war"

"The Alfa Romeo 33/2 # 0015, better known by the "33 of Peixinho", is born with a 2-liter engine in the 24 hours of Daytona in 1968. From the Targa Florio, where it runs with No. 220, the first V8 2.5 liter. Dispute the world championship with the colors of the Autodelta. Subsequently the VDS (Belgian Team) is sold in 1969, the year in which it is piloted by Teddy Pillete.

"The following year António Peixinho and Socoina, an importer of Alfa Romeo for Angola, bought it and with him he raced in different tests during the 70's, where he became famous. Later it was acquired by Santos Pears. After independence, the "33" was in Angola and with the problems inherent to the war installed, to protect the car is practically left behind in a wooden box buried in a backyard of a villa for about 20 years. This "camouflage" allowed the 33/2 survived the violent war of Angola and that later was recovered.

"When someone informs Jean-François Chambault of his existence in Angola, he begins a search for the same one that lasts for months. The Alfa Romeo 33/2 is finally found in late 1983 inside the wooden crate, with a "Piton" snake inside the warehouse, a story that has become almost mythological around this automobile.

"He returns to Europe in 1986, remaining in the state where he was found until 1994, the year in which he began to be restored by Giordano and Massimo Gambi, old acquaintances of Autodelta, thus making a return home after the troubled African adventure.

"From 2000 onwards it became the property of Franco Meiners, having been prepared in France by Francis Trichet."


And a comment by a reader :

"SPECTACULAR. I saw this "bólide" race in Angola, with Peixinho at the wheel, in the 6 Hours International of New Lisbon."


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03-27-2019 12:30 PM
Vivace Interesting story. I did a quick search for Jean Francois Bentz and this popped up...
At the 2002 LeMans Classic, he drove this very 33/2.


"Jean-Francois Bentz and co-drivers Poulain and Meyners shared this Alfa T33/2. The remarkable paint scheme by Bettina Reims got lots of attention, but groans from the purists. Here it passes a Porsche on the exit of Indianapolis."

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https://www.velocetoday.com/events/events_33.php
03-27-2019 02:15 AM
sbadaro Hello all. Off-topic and on the off-chance you may have uploaded video interviews with Giotto Bizzarini, could you pls post link to YouTube or other?
I saw very few interviews for him with english sub-titles and for some reason the youngish generation like David Cirioni & the like don't seem impressed (or haven't managed to impress the old man), but the man is in his nineties and one of the few living witnesses on a unique era in automotive history and can fill manny gaps in our knowledge of what went on with what went on around Modena, Arese, Turin) and with people in the lime lights (Enzo, Chitti, Dallara, Gandini...) and others not so much in the lime light but who greatly impacted that era (like Bizzarini himself and, my personal favorite, il-Maggio, Virgilio Conrero).

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07-10-2003 04:23 AM
Jack Kadeha
33-2 Daytona #015

Hi Simon,

Thanks for the URL's. I still don't like the new colors they gave the car.
In my view, it would have been better when they used the old colors.

Ciao,
Jack
07-10-2003 04:05 AM
smestas Jack,

The reason I was asking is because I saw a picture of the same car while scouring the internet. Im not sure what the text says but I do recognize that paint job.

http://www.spiritof.com.fr/spirit%20.../LMClassic.htm

and another link

http://fr.cars.yahoo.com/021118/194/2usgi.html
07-10-2003 03:57 AM
Jack Kadeha
Alfa 33-2 #033015

Hi Simon,

Sorry, but no. I am still very interested in the car as I am interested in other Angola GP details.

Being the author of the Bizzarrini book, sorry no Alfa, I know Pierre de Siebenthal drove a Bizzarrini Corsa in the 1965 Angola GP.
I know the car didn't finish but I can't find any details on ths GP.
If you have any you also can answer on my e-mail address [email protected]
In that case we don't bother the Alfisti with this Bizza stuff.

Thanks for asking,
Jack
07-10-2003 03:42 AM
smestas Jack,

I was just going thru a few old post and was wondering if you ever found your info on the Alfa 33-2 find in Angola?
11-29-2002 05:59 AM
carlo
Hi Alfisti,

hi to all in this nice and new forum.

I hope for the administrator, that a lot of subcriptions will follow

And of course special greets to my friend Jack!

Ciao Carlo
11-29-2002 03:47 AM
Jack Kadeha Thanks for the tip Alfaspider. I know classicscars.com but I don't like their habit to write 'we know the story'.
I can't understand when one publishes a so called 'register' why don't they share all the relevant info they have?

Ciao,
Jack
11-29-2002 12:47 AM
Jack Kadeha Simon,

Thanks for your interest in my Bizzarrini book.
Price is Euro or US$ 75,-- P&P excluded.
You can order it on my private e-mail address [email protected]

Thanks in advance
Jack
11-28-2002 08:14 PM
alfaspider Hi Jack
While I am not sure that this can be helpful to you, I poked around the 'Net to see if I could locate any info
I did locate this website that lists chassis numbers and "very" limited info. If you visit this page http://www.classicscars.com/chassis/alfa33.htm
And scroll down a little to chassis number 015 under the 33/2 heading it says
"1968 Daytona Andretti/Bianchi .De Adamich 2500 cc engine.Angola racing car 1994 London Auction need full restoration We have the history"
I am not what "we have the history" means but perhaps soemone from that site could direct you? His contact info is:
[email protected]

Good luck.
11-28-2002 01:46 PM
smestas
Bizzarrini book

Jack,

Where can we get a copy of your book? Sounds very interesting.
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