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Yesterday 10:23 AM
Giovanni1985 I too am lucky not to have neighbors too close, living in the country, a few years ago on the occasion of my degree I gave a party more than noisy !!
Surely the roar of an engine is exciting, I personally also appreciate the melody of a well balanced minimum that does not forgive defects.

About the Flaminia hydroplane, beautiful, I remember your video.
A while ago I saw a video where it was flying on the water.
06-14-2019 01:42 PM
Tedesco
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Originally Posted by Giovanni1985 View Post
very nice
It must be so noisy that if you have neighbors within 1 km they will think of a new war ... you will destroy the laboratory windows

It is one of the biggest advantages of my shop that the neigbors are not too close. Before refurbishing the ceiling there was dust gushing down when it got too loud and the windows are clashing in deed (I have a couple of glass panes in stock, just in case one breaks).

You have to wear earmuffs otherwise you canīt stand it. I think I posted some video when the Flaminia hydroplane was in the shop. Maybe it touches some primary instincts, but when you open the throttle and then let loose . . . the explosions and the blue flames bursting out of the manifold, merely fantastic.

OK, we are all civilized and educated people, we do not get excited by these simple things, it is only scientific work and the only purpose is to gain perception
06-13-2019 05:46 PM
Subtle Always an interesting thread,
06-13-2019 04:28 PM
Giovanni1985 very nice
It must be so noisy that if you have neighbors within 1 km they will think of a new war ... you will destroy the laboratory windows
06-13-2019 12:40 PM
Tedesco
Angst

The Flavia engine has been repaired (new crankshaft, conrod and bearings) and installed on the new engine test stand and has been connected to the power meter. At the beginning it did not start because the ignition sequence was wrong. And I swear I did not change it!!! Once this problem had been solved, I shortly turned it up to 2500 rpm without the cooling water of the Schenck being running. The instrument did not move at all.

After turning on the water, the instrument woke up, while the engine stopped fairly quickly. The load lever of the power meter had been set too high. At that time, I got really nervous with the propshaft of the power meter idling right in front of me. Turned down the load with the remote control and started the engine again.

Did some playing with the engine revs and the power meter load but honestly was feared by the incredible noise the engine produced without exhaust installed while I had to stand very close to the rotating parts in order to operate the carburetor throttle for setting the revs. Made a few photos using the rc of the camera. The square instrument in the switch cabinet shows the revs. Engine revs and load interact and it needs some experience to balance them for correct measurement which I did not manage this time.

I made some jokes about the cable rc of the Schenck before, but now I see its legitimation. Even if you are not a milquetoast as I am it is difficult to observe the instruments, set the engine revs and the power meter load simultaneously while standing close to the roaring engine.

Each test brings a gain of knowledge! Still very many things to learn in order to get it right!

Next thing to be made is a remote control for operating the throttle and some emergency cutout to prevent going berserk of the engine. The throttle actuating will have to be sensitive and other than the pedal on the car will have to keep the position. The cutout should work on two features at least (ignition and fuel pump).

There is a spare Flaminia 2.5 3C without carbs on the shelf. I think I will install a 3B carb and put that on the meter next.









Just for reference: at maximum output (90hp) the meter should show 120N at 5500 rpm.

PS The engine frame is on wheels which allows to roll it under the chain hoist to install the engine, but during power metering it could be settled better. Will mount machine feet which can be lifted for taxiing
06-06-2019 10:09 AM
Giovanni1985 Vincit qui patitur
06-04-2019 01:36 PM
Tedesco
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it's tough when that happens. i find that i can go along being very lucky for very long periods of time. but then, when i just don't expect it, disaster happens. just often enough to remind me to be more humble.
I would not say i enjoyed it, but as far as i am concerned, learning by setbacks sometimes goes deeper than learning by success. And the Flavia engines are good for a lot of learning (much more than Flaminia engines, i suspect). The story about the rebuild of our own Flavia engine has been published in our club magazine. It includes a very expensive rebuild by a well reputated professional, which lasted a little bit more than 1k miles (1.700 km). Ended up in more than a handful of dismantlings and reassemblies. I did not give up and made it in the end. But frustration had never been bigger!
06-04-2019 07:04 AM
bmarler it's tough when that happens. i find that i can go along being very lucky for very long periods of time. but then, when i just don't expect it, disaster happens. just often enough to remind me to be more humble.
06-01-2019 01:03 PM
Giovanni1985 I'm taking the same risk with my 2500 coupe. it has been stopped so many years . the engine, however, seems ok, i dont want open it for nothing....
in these two years he has run often. last week I replaced the oil again and cleaned the cup because it had pierced a head plug. no metallic residue. I hope I have passed the critical phase!!
06-01-2019 12:28 PM
Tedesco
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Hi Hubert, was this engine stopped for many years?
Hi Giovanni,
the engine sat for more than 30 years. It was my fault, combination of laziness and lack of care.
05-31-2019 09:33 PM
Giovanni1985 Hi Hubert, was this engine stopped for many years?
05-31-2019 12:27 PM
Tedesco Work on the “guest cars” is about to be finished. The Flavia engine had been installed on the Vignale and my buddy Tom collected the car and left to drive home. One hour later he gave me a call. Almost made it home, but only almost. The conrod bearing of piston no 3 ceased after 100 km.

What happened? When I rebuilt the crankshaft, I had difficulties removing the plugs in order to clean the oil channels. Decided that it will do without. But the oil channels were clogged, result see above. Conrod and crankshaft scrap, and all the work had to be done a second time.

The Schenck is ready for operation, so the Flavia engine will be the first to be tested. (Maybe up to 3.500 rpm . . .) With the new frame in operation the provisional engine test stand made out of an old Flaminia subframe is disused.







This is the new bearing after 100km without oil











04-16-2019 10:22 AM
Tedesco
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. . . Is there any problem with clearance under the hood? It would seem worth keeping and doing if only for its uniqueness.... ?
Yes, the trumpets have been shortened and the airfilter box chopped. Would be interesting to see what the long intake channels do to the running of the engine. My buddy wants to clean and put it on his desk in the first step. Will wait for that and after a while borrow it from him for performance tests

Hubert
04-16-2019 07:43 AM
[email protected] Thats kind of interesting. Assume it was made for someone with a 3C manifold not wanting to pay for three Webers.... the 3B Solexes were probably cheaper. Is there any problem with clearance under the hood? It would seem worth keeping and doing if only for its uniqueness.... ?
04-14-2019 07:22 PM
PSk
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If you use Facebook there is a fairly active "Lancia Flavia & Flaminia" group
Nope. No way, no how. (expletive deleted) Zuck.
My thoughts on Facebook too
Pete
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